2003 UB313 je Eris ali jabolko spotike... Treating Eris like a Lady Samo 1 poruka/e u topic-u - Vidi hijearhično (tree view). Od: West - view profile Datum: ned 24 Sep 2006 15:13 Email: "West" <r...@sdf.lonestar.org> Groups: alt.astrology, alt.astrology.marketplace, alt.astrology.asian, alt.divination, alt.discordian Not yet ratedRating: pokaži opcije Odgovor | Odgovori autoru | Proslijedi | Isprintaj | Zasebna poruka | Prikaži izvornik | Ukloni | Prijavi zlouporabu | Find messages by this author Treating Eris like a Lady - Eris Publications Copyright © 2006 by Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://www.lulu.com/astrology Eris is associated with positive competition, healthy spirit of capitalism as well as upgrade. One of the best representations of the spirit of Eris is Bill Gates with Eris conjunct Moon. The golden apple thrown by Eris is obviously Apple Macintosh. Bill Gates took the challenge and the market. The challenge of Eris and her apple are obvious. Catch the golden apple! The house of the horoscope containing Eris is the house of challenge. Eris is challenging you to catch the golden apple with our publications. Eris publications sell online since August 1st 2005. ? Eris in love was one of our fist publications. Eris in Love and War is a completely new rendering for the year 2007. Watch out for bonus manual for the astrologer in the year 2007! With Jupiter in Ophiuchus and Venus in Hydra it is a very special year indeed! You don't need the Antichrist to know that planetary waves get turbulent. ? Catch the golden apple with Bill Gates and our new edition of Eris in Las Vegas. May Eris transits help Jupiter Uranus transits for best results! As we said Eris is the mercilessly successful spirit of capitalism. Cain and Abel fought first. Who is next? ? Eris in synastry and secondary progressions may help you getting an idea of Eris in aspect. All aspects have been determined astronomically. Eris does not make close conjunctions too often. A 14-degree aspect can be generously treated as a "close" one. ? Eris was delineated as 2003 UB313 a year ago. You will find applications in the 12 houses for every life situation. There are even special editions for kids and pets! ? Objects designated as 2005 FY9 or 2003 EL61 are next in size to Eris and Pluto. All transneptunian giants have received their delineation when they were still unnamed. Many of them are unnamed still but have their delineation. Our recent effort covers the delineation of a large number of transneptunian objects in the 7th house of the horoscope. Eris is the major dwarf planet in astrology as delineated in love and war, sex, business, real estate, for women, in spiritual life, for kids, for pets and even for the old school of astrologers. The dwarf planet does not have anything like a standard trajectory as it is moving almost perpendicular to the ecliptic. As concern the generally well known IAU zodiacal constellations Eris will enter Pisces and Aries and only in 200 years it will cross Virgo. Eris will thus never enter Taurus, Orion or Gemini on its way. It is impossible to have Eris in Aquarius much as it is to have Pluto in Aries. The previous generation had Eris in Sculptor much as the present has Eris in Cetus. Planets hide their secrets. Even the modest Moon has many surprises for the astrologer. While Eris was setting in Cetus over the western WTC horizon, the Moon entered Orion. Eris was delineated for general use in astrology as well as for accurate predictions. Since even the "well known" Sun, Moon or Venus need extra accuracy when used in prediction, we can afford treating Eris like a lady in her own constellation. The place she likes to be is the constellation where she was found. Since the Moon, Mercury, Venus and every planet enter Cetus, Cetus is a zodiacal constellation in its own right. Dwarf planet Pluto can even make a close conjunction with Eris in Cetus in its own time. Pluto must be a strange fellow since it never enters Pisces or Aries. After Sculptor, Cetus, Pisces and Cetus II, Eris will enter Aries. After a short sojourn in Aries Eris is heading towards the north pole while crossing Perseus, Camelopardalis, Lynx, Ursa Major, Canes Venatici and Coma Berenices before crossing the ecliptic again in Virgo. Thus Eris crosses the ecliptic only twice in 600 years. It is surely a peculiar lady. In some 500 years from now Varuna, 2005 FY9 and 2003 UB313 will meet in Cetus. Outdated house systems and hardly scientific astrology cannot cope with Eris because they cannot calculate the ascendant or even the position of the Sun. Scientific astrology is able to look astronomy in the face because they are one. We know the skies change due to precession. The set of ascendants is changing constantly. The ascendant is not a static thing at all. Since the Sun ventures into Ophiuchus and the Moon into Auriga and Venus in Hydra we have 24 astronomic constellations in all. To have 12 signs in the sky is of course a simplification for the simple folk. Astrologers know where planets are much as astronomers do. There is one Mars only. When it is noon it is noon for astrologers and astronomers as well. We have only one vault above us. God did not create a separate vault for the astrologers and the devil to play upon it. There is one generally accepted astronomical sky. Observatories all over the planet agree as to the position of the Sun. In the following passage one will learn that it is not that easy at all to determine the position of the Sun. It is in fact quite a challenge in special cases such as that of Sai Baba. Isa 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Eris is below the western horizon when in the 6th house. This seemingly meaningless note is in fact necessary. There are programs one is liable to come across that are calculating various systems of houses. To our best knowledge and on inspection we did not find any house system that shows the real sky. In the case of Eris this means that Eris should not be observable when in the 6th house and well below the western horizon. The result of use of peculiar "house systems" is one can never tell where the planet in question really is. Since in astrology it is not at all the same if your Neptune is in the 7th or in the 6th house this creates additional chaos to the already rich list of bugs. We take that the real sky is a fairly accurate collection of omens. Since we work with the real sky we don't need any distortion. We don't want to misplace planets for the purpose of superstition or cheating. When Eris is setting, the descendant is most probably Cetus. In some variations the descendant will be alternatively measured as Taurus or even Eridanus. Note that Eridanus and Taurus are rather rare ascendants at the present epoch since they occupy a minor part of the eastern sky. The animations on the site clearly show this obvious fact. The descendant cannot be Aries at this epoch since Aries is presently quite incapable setting in due west much as it is currently impossible for Aries to rise in due east. What happens to the virtual sky as used by various astrologers. This sky simply does not exist and probably never did. It was meant for educational purpose. No astrologer that is accurately observing the motion of the planets would take the 12 signs simplification seriously. The 12 signs were probably used for general purpose while the initiate of course knew about e.g. Venus in Hydra. In old Egypt Hydra and Le were in fact depicted together. It is highly unlikely that the Mayan civilization remained unaware of the special positions of Venus. Some civilizations were literally obsessed with a particular star such as Sirius or planet like Venus. When a comet or supernova would appear it was of course recorded in the appropriate constellation. The Egyptian would surely depict a planet exactly in its position modern representations such as at Denderah still retain the possibility f depicting e.g. Venus in Cetus or "Eris in Anubis". It can be generally assumed that whether the "astrologer" knows it or not his natal Sun may be in Ophiuchus. Moreover whoever has no problem accepting that Spica Virginis is "at the 23rd degree of Libra" should be at least informed of the strange possibility that the major star of Virgo is in fact in Virgo. To have Sun in Virgo on the major star of large Virgo constellation probably means one has been born with Sun in Virgo. That should be sufficiently logical even for the less gifted. It seems logical to look towards the west in search of the descendant much as we would naturally torn towards the east looking for the ascendant. While this and many other facts seem logical they are never used in astrology. Various examples clearly show e.g. Pisces rising while the astrologic program calculates "Capricorn". Albeit Capricorn is at southeast and high in the sky, the program has it "ascending". What is worse people believe such nonsense probably trusting "astrologers" as against possibly evil scientists". The problem is that before astrologers are quite incapable of discovering new objects like Eris possibly because they can't use a compass. The result of the "development of astrology" especially in the past 2000 years is that it is more reliable to consult a Boy Scout than an astrologer. Imagine someone born with Sun in Virgo and Pisces rising being told by a trusted astrologer that he is a "Scorpio with Capricorn ascending". Hilarious as it seems wrong identification could ruin one's life and karma if one had one but it may not be so. Astrological "interpretation" as well as "suggestiveness" among people in general easily marches along with false ego and towards an adequate "yes sometimes I really feel like this" or "Scorpio personality suits me well". It is understandable that someone with Sun in Virgo must feel like a "Scorpio". Even avatars should in fact generally accept it. But when it comes to avatars of truth we may be informed that things don't look as we think up there. The Vedic system greatly differs from the western tropical system as God and NASA may be just slightly at odds. We have informed Sai Baba that his natal sun was still in Libra on November 23rd 1926 however preposterous it may seem to non-astrologers. The innovations that we introduced can be summed up as follow. ? The astronomic zodiac is the basis for accurate operation with planets. This scientific zodiac has 24 IAU constellations. In the yea 2007 we have Jupiter in Ophiuchus and Venus in Hydra. Those are just examples of accuracy as to the position of the planets. Supposedly astrologers knew about those positions some 2000 years ago. Then something happened and we went retrograding into superstition. ? The precessed ascendant is a new way of looking towards the east with optimism. As the ascendant set changes as we observe the rise and fall of ideals. When Crater and Aries were rising King Arthur led the Grail pursuit. Crater is a zodiacal constellation sometimes meaning the Grail. A pharaoh born with Lepus ascendant was surely a cowardly fellow and so on. ? We have 16 rising constellations at this epoch. The astrologer trains to determine the eastern ascendant according to the real sky. The procedure generally saves time and effort. There is no error in the real sky. The east is a reliable ascendant. ? Special positions of the planets. In "Venus in Special Constellations" the word "special" is for the newcomer. To have Venus in Sextans or Orion is in fact quite a common affair. Our favorite example had Moon in Cetus, ascendant Hydra, Mercury in Sextans, Venus in Orion, Juno in Scutum and Pluto in Serpens. ? Since Egyptian astrology functions well with NASA based observation we decided to blend the old Egyptian system with our own. This project takes time. At present we are integrating the pre-Denderah elements into our own system. Egypt is fascinating when cleared from Greek distortions (sorry, Eris!). ? The Eris materials range from experimental to comprehensive applications. Gigabytes of published material over a year of hard work should warrant reliability. Klaudio Zic i...@yahoo.co.uk http://www.lulu.com/astrology
