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Ti voxmail = ??? moj je + 385 91 70 108 108 4 torej 70 vmes. Vedno Rakitna:) Tropikalno (hmmm) je sedna nekjer na 17 tau. 2004 DW je nekjer na 25 leo. To sta dva nova pomembna objekta. Kar zgodovinska. Too much ekskluzive tlele, she observatoriji nimaju teh podatkov;)

Vse je tolk natanchno kolikor je napachno:) http://puck.dhs.org/28 Denimo Cetus je ochitno zodijakalno ozvezdje, planete grejo skozi Cetus, pa tudi Sedna gre. Pluton ne gre skozi aries ali pa Pisces. Pa je to zamudno, a ne? Kaj je napachno? A je punk napachen che je res punk?

Torej imamo vse podatke simulacije pozicjo (Cetus) in celo delineacije v hishah kakshnih 6 ur preden bo ga NASA objavila. Gre se za prvi Oort Cloud objekt. Dalech je. Lahko je planet H 1.7 Claudio P.S. Smo ga vhakali;) dons!

http://puck.dhs.org/sedna Novi planet dalech v sistemu. NASA daje orbitalne elemente dones. Claudio P.S. Jaz ih zhe 'mam;) Gre se za Oort Cloud objekt. Nahaja se v Cetus (Kit). Smo zhe imeli Luna v Cetus (1/1/2004). Mekaj sem vhakal Chad Truijlu in je bilo teshko kar je na sajtu napachna designacija. Kakor zhe: = Sedna = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/sedna Sedna provisory delineation. The seventh house is the region above the western horizon. Horizons can play tricks in Inuit regions, where the Sun is said to rise in the West at times. We use astronomy to determine the horizon. Sedna above the western horizon warrants a sincere relationship. The object is full of dolphin energy. Several spiritual groups use to initiate their members into astral dolphin realms, as one can meet his dolphin guide. This guides are very faithful. The houses full of dolphin energy are the 7th and 2nd houses. The 2nd house is below the horizon (which is seldom true in so-called popular tropical calculus). http://puck.dhs.org/28 A particulary painful situation is marked with Sedna in Nadir position (due North). AVE MARIA STELLA MARIS. The bitter sea of discreation treats our ships like nutshells. Qlippoth are disposed of as the salt doll becomes One with the Ocean through pain and grief. Pierced is the Heart of our Queen. This is Sedna in grief. The position is not very good for lovers and marriage as one of the two might resort to black voodoo, possibly... (Note this is a provisory delineation only!). 0 The 4th house is those of grief, suggesting repentance. Perhaps family affairs smeck of bitter Binah energy as Sedna sinks our hopes as if aided by her shaman raven husband. This is clearly a classical Saturn in Libra vibration. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/sedna 1. Insight. Balance. The Temple promotes longevity. Ancestral spirits help averting heart disease. 2. Astrologers will look for Sedna in the second house even in popular solar return charts! This is the best year one can have, finantially speaking. There's a hint at real eastate, too. talisman: the dollar, the Eye in the Triangle, Shiva. Windfall. The guru afloat on the sea. Sincerity. Good winds. Chopping wood for the winter. Cached wood carried to the stove. The maiden chops wood. 3. Inorganic being, but not as yet or necessary already or ever a helper. Non-human, but perhaps rather evil. Black packt. Easter. Do not travel to California, o.k. for New York (horary brief). 4. Painful events in the family. 5. Good issue to steeling a wife. Stolen wife was not hidden (well)? Magus and Astrologer. Sexual pest. Burglary after enrichment? The unexpected Aiwass-like ward. FIAT LVX. 6. Yato yato yami tato nrsimhah. Saint Marc's inorganic guide is Nrsimhah deva of the vedic lore, the protector of astral travel (llers such as Prahlada Maharaj). Inner fires burning ego remanants. Reguls as MIKAL. /a/ A fishing cat. Guru search out of the Temple. Out of the sea life crawls into the forest. Ancestral spirits lead to the wood-of-no-guru. Ancestral spirits spread the MariX before the initiate. The warp-and-woof of other life. Childbirth in the Temple. Capitalism. Sea ecology. Marine expeditions. 7. Sincere relationship and entwined souls. Super marriage! Mountain sisters? Twin souls? 8. Time pyramind. Errection. sinking. Sea bottom. The flood. The overflooding well. 9. Excellent for art and travel! Roundabout. Spring equinox. Compare with Pegasus constellation. 10. Grail. ( Crater ? ). Flying? One year of good business? Friends forever? Spirit helpers. Aiming at immortality after meeting a spiritual ancestor and guide. Persist in poverty. 11. Wartime. Ra-Hoor-Khuit? The evil fixation of second attention. Visiting the feudal lord. Bribing the nagual? 12. Bad issue? Hidden victory? Quickly out of the Temple? The Temple of the Fast Redemption. O5. Chief druid. The Pope in Sicily. The kayak. Niagara Falls. Transilvania Waterfalls. The 1st, 6th and 12th houses are most certainly connected to marine ecology, the sea and a sort of initiation. See also Varuna delineation. The first house is like the song of the old sea, the 6th enmeshes sea's secrets and is dangerous. Fire at the sea bottom? The 12th house is like the release from the sea, shooting up and forth, killing the raven of time. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/sedna O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org The stars are spirits, rather than mere gas. The transneptunian KBO (cubewano, plutino) are more than mere icy rocks. Inorganic beings initiate the magus, as they are often classified as stars. The errors of tropical astrology are many. See Alan Leo under http://puck.dhs.org/nu for an initiation into horizons proper. Notes: Students study 2004 DW in Crater. http://puck.dhs.org/28 /2004DW Fish-nets extend to Internet. Caught in the midst of the Net. Sacrificed. Short lived? Tranquil, blessed, good salary. Immune to any attack. Those are some of the + and - keys to be classified. /a/ http://puck.dhs.org/nu /5gram MIKAL as Regulus.

Smrt je prvoten strah. Otrok se zaveda hudicha (nekjer do 3-ga leta ponavadi), ga vidi in ve da ga hudich (voladero) zhre. Mi nismo jedi za hudiche, Madona in Sveti Juda Tadej pOMagaj!!! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&...h%2Bdiscreation Diskreiraj smrt ! (To ja obenem O5IRIS inicijacija;)

Denar si kar sam izkreirash z O5. Primer:) ate: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:36:17 -0800 From: hello all <seeker346@hotmail.com> To: puck@ghettobox.dhs.org Subject: O5, Avatar CHP, Sedona O5 is a great tool, but i would like to know what makes it more powerful for some than the Avatar CHP and the Sedona Method. I have used all three and get the same results with all three. They all will allow you to create in physical reality. As an example i started with a simple goal of manifesting $100 or more by only using each of these techniques. One at a time of course. With the Avatar CHP i was able to create $500 in 4 days by doing nothing else. With the O5 i was able to create about $600 over a 3 day period. But keep in mind that using any of these techniques first would have made the one i used next a little better because i would have cleared out some of my beliefs to creating money with the first technique so there was less work on the second and third. Which probably explains why when i got to the Sedona Method, which took me a little longer using it to get to that state where i just knew the money was coming, but with Sedona i created over $700 in 1 day. It would appear to me based on this that they all can create as good as one another, it just depends on where your focus is in using the techniques. Anyway, i would love to hear some feedback on this from others using O5 and maybe some other techniques. Google Home - Advertise

Vzorce efikasno "diskreiramo" z O5 tehnologijo (kar v hipu!). http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&...ate%2Bsnowcrash http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&...=discreate%2Bo5

O5IRIS je zelo zanimiva inicijacija. Samo je kakshnih 7 iniciranih. Lahko se inicirash v O5 tudi po e-mail-u, saj se tako zhe veliko ljudi iniciralo z odlichnimi SnowCrash (instant!) izkushnjama. From: WR106 (smith@sdf.lonestar.org) Subject: Avatar$ Moneymaking in Sedona View: Complete Thread (2 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: alt.clearing.homer-w-smith, alt.clearing.avatar, alt.spiritual.enhancement Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:13:59 +0100 ate: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:36:17 -0800 From: hello all <seeker346@hotmail.com> To: puck@ghettobox.dhs.org Subject: O5, Avatar CHP, Sedona O5 is a great tool, but i would like to know what makes it more powerful for some than the Avatar CHP and the Sedona Method. I have used all three and get the same results with all three. They all will allow you to create in physical reality. As an example i started with a simple goal of manifesting $100 or more by only using each of these techniques. One at a time of course. With the Avatar CHP i was able to create $500 in 4 days by doing nothing else. With the O5 i was able to create about $600 over a 3 day period. But keep in mind that using any of these techniques first would have made the one i used next a little better because i would have cleared out some of my beliefs to creating money with the first technique so there was less work on the second and third. Which probably explains why when i got to the Sedona Method, which took me a little longer using it to get to that state where i just knew the money was coming, but with Sedona i created over $700 in 1 day. It would appear to me based on this that they all can create as good as one another, it just depends on where your focus is in using the techniques. Anyway, i would love to hear some feedback on this from others using O5 and maybe some other techniques. Google Home - Advertise http://groups.google.com/groups?q=o5%2Bsed...&oe=UTF-8&hl=en

SMS + 385 91 108 108 4 SLO5 Network - Inicijacije, delavnice, dijade, aplikacije, mojstri. http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck/m5452.html O5 omogocha da naredisH KARKOLI HOCHESH ZDAJ. http://puck.dhs.org/slo (bo, bo!) http://www.lunin.net/forum/index.php?act=S...ite=diskreacija Subject: Re: B-Org O5 by Franz Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:43:48 +0100 From: O5 <ananta@spunge.org> Organization: o5 Newsgroups: alt.clearing.O5 References: 1 O5 Oberon5 magijska tehnika u pet koraka za (dis)kreiranje željene realnosti. Osnovni pojmovi: ALFA= pozitivna, jaka afirmacija, rijeè, reèenica, slika, simbol koji odražava naš . naum, jasnu namjeru stvaranja neèega. BETA= otpor realizaciji alfe, bilo tko i bilo što na bilo kom nivou što sprjeèava, smeta da se naša alfa manifestira kao željena realnost. ALFA Alfa može biti: autosugestija ili afirmacija, tzv. idealna scena i karta skrivenog blaga, sigil, mantra... AUTOSUGESTIJA ILI AFIRMACIJA: je jaka pozitivna izjava da je nešto veæ takvo, formirano, postojeæe. Afirmacije uvijek izražavamo u sadašnjem vremenu, znaèi da bi oblik “Ja sam zdrav.” ili “Ja sam savršeno zdravlje” bio prihvatljiv, umjesto “Ja æu biti zdrav”. Afirmaciju uvijek izražavati pozitivnom reèenicom “Ja neæu biti kukavica” se ne smatra povoljnim oblikom nego “Ja sam hrabar”. Afirmacija može biti jedna reèenica(kratka i jasna), rijeè, više reèenica okupljenih oko iste namjere. Bolje je koristiti kraæe reèenice i istovremeno ne raditi sa afirmacijama za razlièite svrhe. Afirmacije igovaramo glasno, šapatom, mentalno, dok radimo, vježbamo, hodamo, trèimo, pišemo ih, slušamo(mentalno ili sa kazete, CD-a)... Zanimljiva je tehnika pisanja afirmacija u sva tri lica jednine: JA xyz sam_____ . Ti xyz si _____ . xyz je _____ . Pri èemu je zgodno zamisljati kako nam netko govori upravo ono što afirmiramo, ili netko o nama to govori. Pritom je bitno svaki otpor, negativnu misao, stav, svako nemoj, ne smiješ, nemoguæe, registrirati i diskreirati. Mi se pri afirmiranju ne koristimo prisilom niti uvjeravanjem, veæ na jedan odluèan/opušten naèin utjeèemo na naše stavove, uvjerenja. Izrada idealne scene i karte skrivenog blaga. Ovo su jednostavne, zabavne i efikasne tehnike u izazivanju promjena u matrixu po volji. Kod izrade idealne scene jednostavno odaberemo jedan cilj za odreðeno životno podruèje te jasno opišemo cijelu situaciju kao da je taj cilj ostvaren u potpunosti. Opis je u sadašnjem vremenu tj. vrijede sva uputstva kao i kod izrade afirmacija, s tim da ovdje koristimo više reèenica za opis odreðene situacije.Na kraju opisa dodati:”Ovo ili nešto bolje, sada se manifestira za mene.Na potpuno zadovoljavajuæe i harmoniène naèine, za najviše dobro svih nas.” Karta skrivenog blaga je materijalna slika željene realnosti. Ona stvara jasnu i oštru predodžbu naše alfe.Izraðuje se crtanjem, izradom kolaža iz slika izrezanih iz magazina, razglednica, prospekata ... Kod izrade mape s blagom mi se isto kao i u idealnoj sceni prikazujemo u veæ ostvarenoj željenoj situaciji, sa potpuno ostvarenim ciljem.Poželjno je karte raditi posebno za svaki cilj ili životno podruèje radi lakšega fokusa pažnje pri radu(gledanju). Obavezno staviti sebe u kartu, fotografije daju vrlo realistiène rezultate. Velièina karte je proizvoljna, od malog papriæa pa do slike preko cijeloga zida. Uvijek ukljuèiti simbole, slike, formule, koje oznaèavaju Boga –da nas podsjeti odakle sve dolazi. Koristiti dosta boja, neka slika bude živa. Upisati odgovarajuæe afirmacije, simbole, sigile, te sto je bitno uokviriti mapu npr. iscrtati 1,5 cm širok okvir voštanim bojama, flomasterom, priljepiti okvir itd. Opet kao i kod idealne scene ukljuèiti afirmaciju: “Ovo ili nešto bolje sada se oèituje za mene. Na potpuno zadovoljavajuæe i harmoniène naèine za najviše dobro svih nas.” Provesti svaki dan uz kartu i O5 neko vrijeme je sve što je potrebno, mada se èini da su i mape sa stalnim prebivalištem u ormaru poprilièno efikasne. Izrada i upotreba sigila. Ovo je vrlo jednostavna i efikasna tehnika u kojoj naš naum jasno definiramo te izrazimo u nekom simboliènom obliku koji u pravilu ni po èemu ne asocira na željeno. Zgodno je sigil izraditi tako da najprije jasno izrazimo ono što hoæemo, izbacimo sva slova koja se javljaju dva ili više puta, te preostala aranžiramo u monogram, slièicu, nekakav naš simbol koji je u ovom slucaju naša alfa. Slova je moguæe izraziti raznim simbolima, alfabetima, runama koji se isto tako mogu koristiti pri konstrukciji sigila.Dalje možemo konstruirati mantre, anagrame i sl. Integriranje sigila u “podsvjesno” vrši se na zaista razne naèine npr. neti- neti proces, i u stanju praznine istu ispunimo našim sigilom(nosaè namjere) te nakon toga više ne mislimo na sigil i cijeli proces. Naravno ako smo u stanju bez misli, ako nismo- možemo nesto zanimljivo èitati i sl. BETA Um se sastoji od parova suprotnosti, tako da za svaku našu alfu imamo i betu koja se javlja u vidu otpora, suprotnih misli, osjeæaja.To mogu biti prošla negativana iskustva koja jednom proživljena više nièemu ne služe veæ samo stvaraju i održavaju unutarnje i vanjske prepreke svakoj pozitivnoj promjeni, isto je i sa zabranama, utjecajem medija itd. Jasno je da za svaku alfu imamo i po cijele èopore beta(parova suprotnosti alfa/beta), ili tek nezamjetne “male” bete s kojima se postupa na isti naèin- diskreira ih se O5 tehnikom. Ukratko O5 procedura bi tekla ovako: ALFA- jasno namjeravaj cilj (identifikacija sa alfom) Registriraj bete STOPI SE, IDENTIFICIRAJ SA BETOM PROŠIRI SE DO KRAJNJIH GRANICA IZAÐI IZ BETE I IMENUJ JE ODRECI SE BETE ODVRATI PAŽNJU, NE RADI NIŠTA, PUSTI BETU DA SE DISKREIRA Reafirmiraj ALFU(identifikacija sa alfom) IDENTIFIKACIJA Bete možemo zamisliti na razne naèine(crni oblak), ponekada veæ imaju gotove oblike.Pravila kako bete izgledaju nema, a neka je svatko za svoj sluèaj zamisli upravo onako kako mu se èini da izgleda. Znaèi beta ima odreðeni oblik+ energija bete, kasnije æe dobiti i ime.Prvi korak pri diskreaciji bete je da se identificiramo tj. postanemo to što nam smeta, što mrzimo, na što smo ljuti, pri tome ne pružajuæi bilo kakav otpor niti to radimo silom. Mi prenosimo našu svijest u betu i beta postajemo. Za vježbu ovoga koraka radimo prijenos svijesti u kamenje, biljke, životinje, ljude, mora, planine, planete, ideje(damo joj oblik)...npr.5min biti maèka je ok, samo ovdje ništa ne diskreiramo.Pri diskreaciji poistovjeæujemo se sa betama.Teško da se može za veæinu ljudi govoriti o 100% identifikaciji, ali i djelomièna je ok.U trenutku identifikacije mi percipiramo sa toèke gledišta objekta identifikacije koji smo u tom trenutku mi sami. Pri diskreaciji poistovjeæujemo se sa betama, pri kreaciji sa alfama. Korak dalje.Dubinska toèka(baricentar). Ovo je vrlo bitan dio cijele tehnike i èini je vrlo moænom.Na ovome dijelu diskreacionoga procesa mi presaðujemo, sažimamo našu svijest u samu dubinsku toèku, centar moæi bete. Kod èovjeka to je toèka cca 7 cm ispod pupka i nešto prema kralježnici (prouèi chi kung, tai chi, aikido...). Pošto sve ima svoju dubinsku toèku kao i pri uvježbavanju prvog koraka i ovdje radimo sa raznim objektima po želji, u smislu vježbe i dobivanja specifiènog osjeæaja potrebnog da bi “držali” baricentar. Pri diskreaciji radimo sa betama ma što/tko god one bile (i bilo gdje). Sažimamo svijest u dubinskoj toèki bete do te mjere(atom), da je prostor bete poput cijelog svemira, a mi smo mu u samom centru moæi. 2.)Širenje do krajnjih granica bete. Sada zapoèinjemo sa dubokim udahom, udišuæi betu širimo se iz baricentra do njenih krajnjih granica. Udah je bitan detalj, a do krajnjih granica znaèi do “kože i vrhova kose” bete. 3.)Ovdje smo izvan bete. Proširili smo se do krajnjih granica i sada neutralno promatramo betu iz daljine te je imenujemo. U jednom nehajnom maniru priljepimo na betu bilo koji prikladan naziv ( x, beta, smeæe). Ovo je bitno jer sve što postoji ima ime i oblik. Sve se ovo obavlja opušteno i gotovo nehajno. 4.)Ta beta(znamo kako se zove i kako izgleda) je naša kreacija. Preuzimamo u ovoj toèki odgovornost za postojanje bete, bilo koje bete koju diskreiramo. Ona je tu samo zato jer smo je mi sami stvorili a više je ne trebamo i odrièemo je se. “Ova x beta je moja nekadašnja a sada bespotrebna kreacija, ne treba mi više, upotrijebit æu njezinu energiju za nešto konstruktivno.” Možemo se koristiti i kraæim izjavama, bitan je smisao i princip rada. 5.)U ovome koraku ne radimo ništa veæ odvratimo pažnju i pustimo da se beta sama od sebe diskreira. Reafirmiraj alfu. Opet se nakon diskreaciju poistovjetimo sa alfom (afirmacija, mapa blaga, sigil...). Ako je potrebno, ako se javi beta ponovimo proces diskreacije. Literatura: Franz Bardon: Inicijacija u hermetizam Keith Sherwood:Umijeæe iscjeljivanja PeterCarroll: Liber null & Psychonaut Shakti Gawain: Kreativna vizualizacija Klaudio Žic puck.dhs.org Nadam se da bi ovo bilo u redu. Pozdrav! kaxanova@hotmail.com wrote: > Compiled by Franz von Arbe sextansm@excite.com > > From ananta@chi.spunge.org Mon Jan 12 08:08:15 2004 > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 05:38:01 -0600 (EST) > From: alt.clearing.O5 <ananta@chi.spunge.org> > To: frodo@ri.hinet.hr > Subject: O5, b-org uvod (fwd) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:14:03 -0500 (EST) > From: franz <sextansm@excite.com> > To: ananta@spunge.org > Subject: O5, b-org uvod > > O5 > Oberon5 magijska tehnika u pet koraka za (dis)kreiranje ^Þeljene realnosti. > Osnovni pojmovi: ALFA= pozitivna, jaka afirmacija, rijeè, reèenica, > slika, simbol koji odra^Þava na^Ú > . naum, jasnu namjeru stvaranja neèega. > BETA= otpor realizaciji alfe, bilo tko i bilo ^Úto na bilo kom nivou > ^Úto sprjeèava, smeta da se na^Úa alfa manifestira kao ^Þeljena realnost. > > ALFA > Alfa mo^Þe biti: autosugestija ili afirmacija, tzv. idealna scena i > karta skrivenog blaga, sigil, mantra... > AUTOSUGESTIJA ILI AFIRMACIJA: je jaka pozitivna izjava da je ne^Úto veæ > takvo, formirano, postojeæe. Afirmacije uvijek izra^Þavamo u sada^Únjem > vremenu, znaèi da bi oblik ^ÓJa sam zdrav.^Ô ili ^ÓJa sam savr^Úeno > zdravlje^Ô bio prihvatljiv, umjesto ^ÓJa æu biti zdrav^Ô. Afirmaciju > uvijek izra^Þavati pozitivnom reèenicom ^ÓJa neæu biti kukavica^Ô se ne > smatra povoljnim oblikom nego ^ÓJa sam hrabar^Ô. > Afirmacija mo^Þe biti jedna reèenica(kratka i jasna), rijeè, vi^Úe > reèenica okupljenih oko iste namjere. Bolje je koristiti kraæe reèenice > i istovremeno ne raditi sa afirmacijama za razlièite svrhe. > Afirmacije igovaramo glasno, ^Úapatom, mentalno, dok radimo, vje^Þbamo, > hodamo, trèimo, pi^Úemo ih, slu^Úamo(mentalno ili sa kazete, CD-a)... > Zanimljiva je tehnika pisanja afirmacija u sva tri lica jednine: JA xyz > sam_____ . > Ti xyz si _____ . > xyz je _____ . > Pri èemu je zgodno zamisljati kako nam netko govori upravo ono ^Úto > afirmiramo, ili netko o nama to govori. Pritom je bitno svaki otpor, > negativnu misao, stav, svako nemoj, ne smije^Ú, nemoguæe, registrirati i > diskreirati. > Mi se pri afirmiranju ne koristimo prisilom niti uvjeravanjem, veæ na > jedan odluèan/opu^Úten naèin utjeèemo na na^Úe stavove, uvjerenja. > Izrada idealne scene i karte skrivenog blaga. > Ovo su jednostavne, zabavne i efikasne tehnike u izazivanju promjena u > matrixu po volji. Kod izrade idealne scene jednostavno odaberemo jedan > cilj za odreðeno ^Þivotno podruèje te jasno opi^Úemo cijelu situaciju > kao da je taj cilj ostvaren u potpunosti. Opis je u sada^Únjem vremenu > tj. vrijede sva uputstva kao i kod izrade afirmacija, s tim da ovdje > koristimo vi^Úe reèenica za opis odreðene situacije.Na kraju opisa > dodati:^ÔOvo ili ne^Úto bolje, sada se manifestira za mene.Na potpuno > zadovoljavajuæe i harmoniène naèine, za najvi^Úe dobro svih nas.^Ô > Karta skrivenog blaga je materijalna slika ^Þeljene realnosti. Ona > stvara jasnu i o^Útru predod^Þbu na^Úe alfe.Izraðuje se crtanjem, > izradom kola^Þa iz slika izrezanih iz magazina, razglednica, prospekata ... > Kod izrade mape s blagom mi se isto kao i u idealnoj sceni prikazujemo u > veæ ostvarenoj ^Þeljenoj situaciji, sa potpuno ostvarenim > ciljem.Po^Þeljno je karte raditi posebno za svaki cilj ili ^Þivotno > podruèje radi lak^Úega fokusa pa^Þnje pri radu(gledanju). Obavezno > staviti sebe u kartu, fotografije daju vrlo realistiène rezultate. > Velièina karte je proizvoljna, od malog papriæa pa do slike preko > cijeloga zida. > Uvijek ukljuèiti simbole, slike, formule, koje oznaèavaju Boga ^Öda nas > podsjeti odakle sve dolazi. > Koristiti dosta boja, neka slika bude ^Þiva. Upisati odgovarajuæe > afirmacije, simbole, sigile, te sto je bitno uokviriti mapu npr. > iscrtati 1,5 cm ^Úirok okvir vo^Útanim bojama, flomasterom, priljepiti > okvir itd. > Opet kao i kod idealne scene ukljuèiti afirmaciju: ^ÓOvo ili ne^Úto > bolje sada se oèituje za mene. Na potpuno zadovoljavajuæe i harmoniène > naèine za najvi^Úe dobro svih nas.^Ô > Provesti svaki dan uz kartu i O5 neko vrijeme je sve ^Úto je potrebno, > mada se èini da su i mape sa stalnim prebivali^Útem u ormaru poprilièno > efikasne. > > Izrada i upotreba sigila. > Ovo je vrlo jednostavna i efikasna tehnika u kojoj na^Ú naum jasno > definiramo te izrazimo u nekom simboliènom obliku koji u pravilu ni po > èemu ne asocira na ^Þeljeno. Zgodno je sigil izraditi tako da najprije > jasno izrazimo ono ^Úto hoæemo, izbacimo sva slova koja se javljaju dva > ili vi^Úe puta, te preostala aran^Þiramo u monogram, slièicu, nekakav > na^Ú simbol koji je u ovom slucaju na^Úa alfa. > Slova je moguæe izraziti raznim simbolima, alfabetima, runama koji se > isto tako mogu koristiti pri konstrukciji sigila.Dalje mo^Þemo > konstruirati mantre, anagrame i sl. Integriranje sigila u ^Ópodsvjesno^Ô > vr^Úi se na zaista razne naèine npr. neti- neti proces, i u stanju > praznine istu ispunimo na^Úim sigilom(nosaè namjere) te nakon toga vi^Úe > ne mislimo na sigil i cijeli proces. Naravno ako smo u stanju bez misli, > ako nismo- mo^Þemo nesto zanimljivo èitati i sl. > > BETA > > Um se sastoji od parova suprotnosti, tako da za svaku na^Úu alfu imamo i > betu koja se javlja u vidu otpora, suprotnih misli, osjeæaja.To mogu > biti pro^Úla negativana iskustva koja jednom pro^Þivljena vi^Úe nièemu > ne slu^Þe veæ samo stvaraju i odr^Þavaju unutarnje i vanjske prepreke > svakoj pozitivnoj promjeni, isto je i sa zabranama, utjecajem medija > itd. Jasno je da za svaku alfu imamo i po cijele èopore beta(parova > suprotnosti alfa/beta), ili tek nezamjetne ^Ómale^Ô bete s kojima se > postupa na isti naèin- diskreira ih se O5 tehnikom. > Ukratko O5 procedura bi tekla ovako: > ALFA- jasno namjeravaj cilj (identifikacija sa alfom) > Registriraj bete > > STOPI SE, IDENTIFICIRAJ SA BETOM > PRO^ÊIRI SE DO KRAJNJIH GRANICA > IZAÐI IZ BETE I IMENUJ JE > ODRECI SE BETE > ODVRATI PA^ÎNJU, NE RADI NI^ÊTA, PUSTI BETU DA SE DISKREIRA > Reafirmiraj ALFU(identifikacija sa alfom) > > IDENTIFIKACIJA > Bete mo^Þemo zamisliti na razne naèine(crni oblak), ponekada veæ imaju > gotove oblike.Pravila kako bete izgledaju nema, a neka je svatko za svoj > sluèaj zamisli upravo onako kako mu se èini da izgleda. Znaèi beta ima > odreðeni oblik+ energija bete, kasnije æe dobiti i ime.Prvi korak pri > diskreaciji bete je da se identificiramo tj. postanemo to ^Úto nam > smeta, ^Úto mrzimo, na ^Úto smo ljuti, pri tome ne pru^Þajuæi bilo kakav > otpor niti to radimo silom. Mi prenosimo na^Úu svijest u betu i beta > postajemo. > Za vje^Þbu ovoga koraka radimo prijenos svijesti u kamenje, biljke, > ^Þivotinje, ljude, mora, planine, planete, ideje(damo joj > oblik)...npr.5min biti maèka je ok, samo ovdje ni^Úta ne diskreiramo.Pri > diskreaciji poistovjeæujemo se sa betama.Te^Úko da se mo^Þe za veæinu > ljudi govoriti o 100% identifikaciji, ali i djelomièna je ok.U trenutku > identifikacije mi percipiramo sa toèke gledi^Úta objekta identifikacije > koji smo u tom trenutku mi sami. > Pri diskreaciji poistovjeæujemo se sa betama, pri kreaciji sa alfama. > Korak dalje.Dubinska toèka(baricentar). Ovo je vrlo bitan dio cijele > tehnike i èini je vrlo moænom.Na ovome dijelu diskreacionoga procesa mi > presaðujemo, sa^Þimamo na^Úu svijest u samu dubinsku toèku, centar moæi > bete. Kod èovjeka to je toèka cca 7 cm ispod pupka i ne^Úto prema > kralje^Þnici (prouèi chi kung, tai chi, aikido...). Po^Úto sve ima svoju > dubinsku toèku kao i pri uvje^Þbavanju prvog koraka i ovdje radimo sa > raznim objektima po ^Þelji, u smislu vje^Þbe i dobivanja specifiènog > osjeæaja potrebnog da bi ^Ódr^Þali^Ô baricentar. Pri diskreaciji radimo > sa betama ma ^Úto/tko god one bile (i bilo gdje). Sa^Þimamo svijest u > dubinskoj toèki bete do te mjere(atom), da je prostor bete poput cijelog > svemira, a mi smo mu u samom centru moæi. > 2.)^Êirenje do krajnjih granica bete. > Sada zapoèinjemo sa dubokim udahom, udi^Úuæi betu ^Úirimo se iz > baricentra do njenih krajnjih granica. Udah je bitan detalj, a do > krajnjih granica znaèi do ^Óko^Þe i vrhova kose^Ô bete. > 3.)Ovdje smo izvan bete. Pro^Úirili smo se do krajnjih granica i sada > neutralno promatramo betu iz daljine te je imenujemo. U jednom nehajnom > maniru priljepimo na betu bilo koji prikladan naziv ( x, beta, smeæe). > Ovo je bitno jer sve ^Úto postoji ima ime i oblik. > Sve se ovo obavlja opu^Úteno i gotovo nehajno. > 4.)Ta beta(znamo kako se zove i kako izgleda) je na^Úa kreacija. > Preuzimamo u ovoj toèki odgovornost za postojanje bete, bilo koje bete > koju diskreiramo. Ona je tu samo zato jer smo je mi sami stvorili a > vi^Úe je ne trebamo i odrièemo je se. ^ÓOva x beta je moja nekada^Únja a > sada bespotrebna kreacija, ne treba mi vi^Úe, upotrijebit æu njezinu > energiju za ne^Úto konstruktivno.^Ô Mo^Þemo se koristiti i kraæim > izjavama, bitan je smisao i princip rada. > 5.)U ovome koraku ne radimo ni^Úta veæ odvratimo pa^Þnju i pustimo da se > beta sama od sebe diskreira. > > Reafirmiraj alfu. Opet se nakon diskreaciju poistovjetimo sa alfom > (afirmacija, mapa blaga, sigil...). > Ako je potrebno, ako se javi beta ponovimo proces diskreacije. > > Literatura: Franz Bardon: Inicijacija u hermetizam > Keith Sherwood:Umijeæe iscjeljivanja > PeterCarroll: Liber null & Psychonaut > Shakti Gawain: Kreativna vizualizacija > Klaudio ^Îic puck.dhs.org > Nadam se da bi ovo bilo u redu. Pozdrav! > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web!

Voda in alkohol so povsod, ne samo na Nepttunu. Kentavrji so voda in komete so voda. Kot vede prave... P.S. 2004 DW je tudi voda. (led). ||: voda + |:: ogenj = parapsihologija!

seveda! zvezda = duh zvezde niso samo to kar astronomi mislijo da vejo da vidijo kar mislijo da vedo! ascendentalni angel je "mojster" te stopinje oziroma natanchne zvezde. 360 jih je zaenkrat, pol pa 28 v naslednji sferi pol pa ... 12 za juoiteroivo sfero itn... tle se zhe gre za ritualno magijo

Ravnokar sem se pripravil (cajta! cajta!) updejtat tega Usamota:) Pejstam link: zaenkrat http://puck.dhs.org/28 da uza fiendly site ... Zaenkrat WTC dogodek in Usama imajo Mesec v Orion X12 Orionis. http://puck.dhs.org/28 /extra

Ko planet(oid, minor planet) ima extremno deklinacijo mu pravimo "out of bound" (denimo Mars Kissinger, che se spomnem ok?). Jaz sem korak naprej naredil in ga sprejmam v ozvezdju v kateremu se nahaja. To je tako ... nerodno astrologom:) Marsa, moral bom v Costa Rica-o da skupaj z prijateljem zrihtam program kater naj bi privedel v red 28zodiac astrologijo,. Nekej zhe imamo, pa je she tega velik za nare'st. Zaenkrat experimentalno. Varuna v 8? Pravednezh trpi:( Ti pa kar dodaj! Ni tega velik. Nekaj je na tem delal Denis z Odessa-e, ... ... ponavadi ostane na 2-3 entuzijasta, ... + Marsa, seveda;))) Zhe vem da sem nesramnezh, pa je hujsheg zraven, a ne?

Zhivjo Marsa. Fool kot (tibetanski horoskop) = gibon:) Drugach (tibetanski) brown goose (klepetalec?). Pridem, se oglasim;) http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%222004+...&oe=UTF-8&hl=en

Ni ne ne vem kakshno obdobje za partnerstvo? Magar zato kar je Juno v Scutum (Shchit) ozvezdju! http://puck.dhs.org/extra/scutum/ March hares 2004 have Juno in Scutum? Are they mad? = Juno in Scutum = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html 28zodiacal astrology includes Scutum constellation. Being born with Aquila ascending this days means having Juno in Scutum in the 12th or 1st house. Never use tropical calculus to know which, one, it'll fail. What is this position about? The evil majikian uses his majik mirror and fogs timespace. Especially time. Time lapses get less reliable here. Marriage gets dull. There's agression ahead of an average sullen day. Triangle relationships break up and one finds oneself temporarely alone. Allone eternal but constancy does not mean escaping the tooth of time. The practice of time discreation. Intent enables teleportation. Marriage was determined from the start as if parameters won't change. The very institution of marriage is not only in crisis: it is unbearable: nothing there for the neophyte. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org

+ Tjah sem zrachunal rojstvo ANTIKRISTICE. Pa kaj. She vedno je Sveti Juda Tadej zraven (na TroMostovju, Trgu). + + http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%222004+...&oe=UTF-8&hl=en + Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending, many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant! = 2004 DW = http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Updates It seems we have a new object in astrology. While Quaoar was delineated in Ophiucus, 2004 is in Hydra, both snaky zodiacal constellations. Many of you have Sun in Ophiucus but nobody in Hydra. Planets, minor planets, as well as the ascendant are nevertheless often in Hydra, an interesting long constellation as concerns size, depth and mythology. Hydra ascending with 2004 DW for newborn babies shown for various locations, 5 pm Glasgow, 17:11 Rio, 16:30 Charlotte, NC. Various appendixes incorporated in this text, as well as the newsgroup and our Archives explain the mysterious facets of 28zodiac astrology while introducing new ones. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html 2004 DW in Canis Minor: Death, lost battle, ressurectiOM. Slain god cults. 2004 DW in Orion: 1957 was a peculiar year, indeed. Family values, new colors and sounds, leisure, fun, atomic bomb. Sicherheit zu Erste. Protection is the main pO5sessiOM. Orators can be sincere. 2004 DW in Hydra: Dangerous waters! (present position). One sleeps on sexualaurels. Lolita. Lady Scarlet is teen! Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending, many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant! 2004 DW in Sextans: The Messiah. 2007 Venus in Hydra? 2004 DW in Crater: The time of the false prophets. LegislatiOM. 2004 DW in Corvus: Oberon and Puck revived in druidic England and Syria. Dolphin cults. Inspection and spiritual protection. The Holy Raven. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW /ng.html Time to discover your own position and those of your future children and favorite tiranitoes. We will use genuine ancient ways (stargazing) whernever it's possible to capture 2004 DW 's message, more or less messianic. Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW 666 is no longer alone 2004 DW in the 6th house is the Whore of the Apocalypse. Babalon's Progress 2004 DW off Tiamat's Back and into the Apocalypse Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra? Largest discovery after Pluto! http://puck.dhs.org /2004DW Astromajikal Delineation and Update, Mar 5th 2004. See = Adenda = for astrological novices, curious and the expert! © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html Note that we dismiss it's "position in Leo" as unsensical. Your local astronomer will, of course, agree. Your shaman will agree. Nature agrees. Star gazing confirms. So there's no need to pay attention to "2004 DW in Leo" gibberish. When and if it's in Leo sometimes, we'll let you know. It may as well be it never reaches Leo proper. Pluto never reaches Aries or Pisces, so that would be no surprise! Introduction for the general reader: True Zodiac = Albeit generally assumed (?) the zodiac has 13 constellations, it has in fact 28 constellations (or 29 if we split Serpens Cauda from Serpens Caput). Hydra is not only zodiacal, but also ascendental, meaning many of you were born with Hydra ascending (since occult is at stake). One cannot e.g. have Aries ascending in due east. The 28zodiac has an astronomical rationale. After my own modest research triumphing in indian summer 2003, I have found by sheer chance a research has been conducted in the late seventies as a couple of astronomers (NC U.S.A. and Belgium) with the results published in popular format. The zodiac has 28 constellations, and if we exclude Pluto as planet (something already largely proposed), it has a convenient number of 24 (but astrlogers will use 25) constellations. This has nothing to do with outdated vedic calc and has everything to do with IAU. Giant Transneptunians = objects larger than the main belt asteroids (e.g. Eunomia or Vesta). They are usually fall into cubewano (Varuna) or plutino (Ixion) class. The SDO or Scattered Disk Objects are also taken into account. Since 1992 we have discovered 800 transneptunians. Centaurs = popular lively objects "closer" to us. Chariklo and Hylonome are female centaurs. Among the others Cyllarus, Thereus, Nessus, Pelion, Chiron, Elatus, Pholus, 2004 CJ39. Extrazodiacal = A convenient term that may drop out soon as it served it's purpose. It may even create some confusion when Pluto is degraded as plutino. Use "28 Constellations Zodiac" to upgrade from http://puck.dhs.org/extra Disposing of Pluto, we are left with a convenient (?) 24 constellations zodiac. In that cases constellations such as Bootes would be called "extrazodiacal", along with Pluto's (a.k.a. "out of bounds") "extreme" = extrazodiacal positions. Ascendant = Eastern constellation and inorganic being (especially head or ascended master-star). Aries cannot ascend in due east at this time and age, but it used to at the time when Crater was an ascendental constellation, too. http://puck.dhs.org/nu 4examples. http://puck.dhs.org/extra for "extrazodiacal" (! constellations. One note: The "13th" constellation is Ophiucus, a large strip of the zodiac. As the Sun spends an average of (roughly!) six days in Scorpius, it slips by Ixion into Ophiucus to meet Quaoar, Pluto, 2002 MS4 there, along with the Moon, Mercury, Venus and (all) other planets, as well. For Pluto and Jupiter in Ophiucus see = Adenda = at the bottom of this article. At the time you read this, Pluto may be moving into Scutum (the resent position of Juno!: see Juno-minded appendix). Have a planet in Ophiucus? Search http://groups.google.com for "Sun in Ophiucus" or "Venus in Ophiucus" delineations. That applies for Saturn or Venus in Orion and other 28zodiacal poO5itions, "Venus in Hydra" including. (continued) Whatever difficult position you may have in your nativity, hard work benefits. Monastery discipline is needed to overcome this object's influence. Abramelin would particulary elaborate on it, but we have Elipinon! http://www.lava.net/~pagios Statements like "2004 DW in Leo" have no sense. By the way, Pluto is never in Aries or Pisces. http://puck.dhs.org/nu Hydra is a long thing, so 2004 DW's journey through Hydra roughly lasts 12 years. You can have Hydra ascending, of course, in your own natal chart (but you can't have e.g. Aries ascending). 2004 DW in Hydra roughly 1984 - 2006. Parenting in 2007? You are not alone, either. See also "Venus in Hydra". The site abounds with data pointing to possible special incarnations, especially in 2007! Parents should exercise extra timing and ritual! It seems like the devils blow their 13th trombone After giant Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/enter.html we have 2004 DW. Lady Scarlet of the Apocalypse bathes in her poisonous pool as female monsters rise. Whoever saith antiChrist's a male????????????? The site includes the calculations and birthright of the antichrists. Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra? Our blood is poison to the lips of the Beast! An object larger than Quaoar has been recently discovered. This article will require some familiarity with the True Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra, (Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation use: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html Important objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian. The greatest discovery after Pluto, 2004 DW receives it's first delineation. As we had Quaoar in houses, so we have 2004 DW in Houses The largest discovery after Pluto may be the Devil Himself for some and Loving Guardian Angel for the rest. Such is it's dual nature. Man has two minds and it is 2004 DW that makes them clash asunder towards the apocalyptic End of Time. 2004 DW in Houses © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html Among the predictable and average errors will be this object's assignation to "tropical Leo", an unexisting and absolutely foul preassumption of the poor mind. 2004 is not nearly in Leo, it is in Hydra. Worse: it is not heading towards any "astrological" constellation, as the illustrations clearly show and purporting text discusses in some (even mythological) detail. The other gross errors will spring from the aspects of 2004 DW. People assume the zodiac is some kind of ring. It is a belt made of 28 constellations (not 13). While 2004 DW may hold extrazodiacal positions (kind of tricky to check out), it nevertheless perfectly occupies _zodiacal_ constellations, such as Hydra, Sextans, Crater, Corvus, Orion, Aquila, to mention some. Venus is in Orion this summer so Orion is a zodiacal constellation. This truism will puzzle alanleist astrologers, more than his own inabillity to calc his chart. http://puck.dhs.org/nu /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar (corrections) Some will assume a distant Sun has this or that aspect, even conjunction with 2004 DW, while the objects will be constellations apart. This is largely an error with stars, such as Beta Persei or Scheat (or 2002 TX300 giant transneptunian) and a variety (actually majority!) of objects (including some planets!) with "out-of-bound" (bound?) positions, e.g. "extreme" (???) declinations. First he assumes the zodiac has 12 (???) "signs" (?????), then he assumes all planet(oid)s "glide" along the same (fairly circular) track. Then errors spring. People already fancy conjunctions and even squares, since no one told them (you tell what you know) the basics. People thinking the zodiac has 13 (or even 12) "signs" are genuinely and raving equinoctially mad. For all practical (?) purposes we assume Pluto is a planet, and so most of you do assume there is something like a 12 sign zodiac. One took some school drafts too seriousely. Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html In North Carolina there's an observatory that knows the 28 zodiacal constellations. And there's an astronomer in Belgium that agrees. The truth must be told to the ahstrological communtity (even if they won't listen), since there are rare "incarnations" among them that have "astrological" (or even astronomical) aspects in their charts. A few of them could study astrology. This would rise the number of astrologers on this planet from perhaps half a dozen to dozenful. (This is the first annotation, rough keywords used.) The houses are usually numerated and "understood" in a crooked way, e.g. the house of the rising Sun is labeled 12th, and has a particullary bad reputation. Let us be certain that the devil installs minds. Astrologers have minds. The suggestion is to use 12th=1st, 11th=2nd and so on. It is still better to use a 28 house system (allowing 29 for Caput and cauda Serpentis) in our fully operative and astronomically precise 28 constellation zodiac. 1. Lamia. Three watersnakes with female faces seduce the youth like Ida Pingala and Shushumna. Study Aquila and Leo. Alchemy. 666 is allone, even after a ritual with a compatible Beast. NEM0's whiteness is not like silvery apparition. Brahma's womb is not sunnya sunnyata. Voidless Void. O5 NETI NETI. Final annihilation. Loneliness. There's N0 0NE BUT ME! Agent Smith's "Me, me, me!". Projection. Futile riches. Gay cataclysm. Satan. The Fall. Ecliptic times. The primal wound. Left body stirring. The Dark Side. The triumph of Naga Sadow. All fall! Hell is white. The three-in-one vampirelike monster of the pool is however devoured by their victim after having sex with him. Lamia is not a bad alternative (to Aiwass) for this object, at least while it venoms our perception pool with triurne kundalini. Wav files as opposed to mp3 files. Waves as opposed to life compression. cOMpress time, rather than life. Don't waste a second. Gulp it up. Devour the day. Scarlet Lady masquerading as watermonster? Don't we have submarines? /1/ 2. You give too much of your energy. This is bad for money matters. Jesus Christ was ultimately sold. The formula of the dying God. Do not lend on interest. Save yourself first. Keep some for yourself. Your vital energy is beng sucked through as the vampire gets away with it. The sacrifice was accepted by the greedy inorganic, yet there is no receipt note or thanksgiving or anything in left in exchange. Hell's entrance. PORTA INFERNA. Set in the Desert. Lucifer. Particularly demoniac with Venus Lucifer position (in Hydra). Lost aircrafts. Highjacking. Deliberately shot airplane. 3. Good will prevail. True Mind triumphs in Silence and Intent. This is bad for merchandize, ego, transactions and the devil. Roughly meaning there is sympathy between the devil and the merchant. Satan's source code. The MatriX. The well of the snakes. Hell protecting the water of life. Black shiatsu. 4. Excellent for homely matters. Cosy home. Warm familiar atmosphere. A Note: but that may take quitesome time! A promise of a warm hearth, even if family life has been less than ideal up to now. Note that we use the nadir or due North instead of mere I.C. Note that with Hydra North this is the Pool of the Lamia. A sort of Scarlet Lady's basin (of the blood of the saints). Love all serve bloody all. A very good position! Angel guardian. Homework for my students: when Hydra is due North, what do we face South? Love, lover, love affairs, friendly dispO5ition, basic sincere friendship, true communism, spirit of alliance, the ally, inorganic help. An ally-angel carries the acolyte beyond this world. "We will rock you little snake", devil rocked and warm in the cradle of fillit, and one gets away without it! Liberation with the help of the ascended Masters. Heads. Nadiric angel. Time to study your own chart's Nadir to determine your Angel of the Nadir. Rather tricky if you are familiar with I.C. only! Evocation of the nadiric inorganic entity. Sure success in all. This is also a disk Cretely fair material situation, all goes well. In horary astrology: SHE LOVES YOU! We can predict the rise of Nadiric astrology at this point! Too early since our horaries can't calc the Moon:) 5. Unsure of one's own jealousy. Too reserved or outspoken to be provoked into jealousy. One may even wish well one's own rival. The ultimate vendetta is Love. The futile triumph of the jealousy agent provocateur. Jealousy countered from the very start. Expert jealousy v/s juvenile training. Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and 2004 DW) in Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation, rather inclined towards loneliness). Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including. Turn around from lovesex. Get rid of that partner. Sex as escape. Release of sperm and kundalini overweight. This is surely not a kundalinic obesity pO5sition. Touch'n'go! One night stand. 6. Indulgence. Love all serve all. Devour all? The whore (serve all). Scarlet Lady. Our Lady Babalon. A harlot will learn. To banish (discreate), use sibiline verse addressed to Holy Queen Mother as given below. 7. Excellent for marriage. Note that we use the western horizon instead of tropical astrology descendant. See our correction of Rudhyar and Leo http://puck.dhs.org /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar The wife as best enemy of the devil inside. Shy hermit is not christ in hiding? Magdalen the Savior. Ciesa dea Madalena http://puck.dhs.org/venexia Piglet saving the Tiger. Invisible wife's allies, familiaries, the fallen, meek shall florish. Non-persons. An inorganic wife (dwarfish or orkish rather than undine). 8. Fertile impregnation. The watersnake. Tiamat raging in War. The vampire fertilized. Meditate on the 47. Vagina with teeth (various northamerican legends, tibetan mandalas). Samsara as devouring entity. Merchandizing. Quarrel. Third party intruding. Cutting off heads, punishing, cutting off legs. Legal constraint. Bribery? Jack of axe. Extreme severity in legislation. The law, the model. Making love through the barricades (Spandau Ballet). The wars are for the intelligent to learn. In war 2004 DW is madness and religious paranoia. Holy wars were announced by darkplanet Nemesis-Lamia conjunct Puto, Varuna and of course Quaoar. http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html Schizodarknesseeks religious centre. O5 gives spheremajikal geometrical barycentre. Aikido. Keep one point. Concentration. Sex is, after all, one point! Phallic Sun, ejaculaion. The birth of a good and religious child. He shall travel. World religions apartunited by Lady Babalamia. 9. Passion. Dissipation. This is not good for the Spirit. As they nibble the fruit of my flesh, I feel no pain. Evil mantras will not have their way. Angelic operation in the deep hells. Devahans under attack. Lord Shiva firing his Trisula. Major discreation. Learning the secret of the House of Hell. Intelligence and commando. dr. John Dee (agent 007 of H.R.H.) inspecting enochian domains. This position is fertile ground for the student. Forget Vitriol 726 and concentrate on the Sound of Victory. Left body stirring (but how!). Secret operation. Global manipulation. The Dark Lodges. Our Lady Babalon. 10. Go for that partner. Climb social steeps. Or let thy weight roll downhill, instead of pushing it up. Thelema. Khaled Khan. Hydra at the meridian. The zenith of the 28 constellation zodiac. 11. Legal interference. A disturbance in the Force. The waters of the pool stirred? This does not seem a bad position at all. There is lot to work and learn and students and masters gat along fine. There's willingness to learn. Bad karma is dispelled. 12. Love divine. Moksha. True Love. Especially favorable with Venus in Cancer. Less favorable with Venus in Hydra, Sextans. Chariklo in Crater should be taken into account. The Graal. We all have loved you, acolyte (says Lamia-Kundalini-Maya). Original illumination. One shuns followers and is himSelf begging no advantageous gods. This is what Herman Hesse wrote of. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Prayers shall be addressed to Holy Mary > The Queen of Omniverse. 4>57 Yilin transl. Robert Matushan boyler(at)hidden-city.net " Troubles are dissolved and worries are removed, with the help of the Queen Mother, participating in happiness all arrive and I can live in peace. " Let this Han dynasty verse discreate apprehension ("verso" means "I sip" (pour) in italian" and establish the rulership of the good Queen of Omniverse om mahalaxmyai namah (Holy Mary for christians). The siren voice of senses is thus hushed. Hydra launches kundalini up (and down!) the spine, hardly purified, indeed. When kundalini is not pure ( > alt.clearing.O5 ), then When the siren cries, we launch p+sitive mantras, rather than just tap our ears! ( And whle inner and outer blend, we can "discreate" that voice as inner. Let it be noted that that's a long way from evocation and intercourse with the inorganic. The Lamia event is what we call sex with the vampire (to the ultimate detriment of the vampire). Our blood is poison for the lips of the Beast! © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including. Bad keys: 47 the vampire, one's life force gulped up by one's personal devil or "voladero", the three Lamia or kundalinic watersnakes sucking up the young acolyte's sexual energy, oral sex as path to paradisisiac planets (not to moksha), swallowing sperm (as in the vedas), kundalini as vampyre, Kali trumphant as killer, jealousy, unwillingness to sumbit to good and (perhaps) obvious authority, flaming with pride, unable to respect local/native customs, lawless, troubled karma, intruding third person, third man, go-beat-win, the devil itself, los volad-eros, Kairo in flames, Set and his temporary victory over O5iris, the staff of Set, Nibiru in triumph, warring Marduk, the anrgy 4 archangelstars, lingam flying away on Maha Shivarathri. Good keys: Waking up with the house on fire, Lucifer as enlightment bringer, the good salamander, Jupiter's Great Year and good influence, Great Guardian Angel, love triumphs over jealousy, TrueMind triumphs over False Ego, the 4 archangels, the essence of heavenly love, illumination through love divine, the Sphynx victorious, Saint Marc's winged lion with a sword (his second gospel), PAX TIBI MARCE EVANGELISTA MEVS, Thelema, Sai Baba, swallows in spring, Lesser Banishing Pentagram Ritual, overcoming the distrust of the mob perhaps even obtaining fealty. The rightous have no need to fear the Whip of God, since it is a friendly Ripple of Change for them! TrueMind triumphs over False Ego. This means the object is Moon-friendly, but most likely to be Sun-unfriendly. The Sun does not venture into Sextans or Hydra, but the Moon does and Venus will "shortly" be there, too (after Orion). The Moon (Isis) stands for True or Initiated Mind. The Sun of course stands for the devil's install or false ego. This is a truism in India as well where Shiva is said to be higher than Krishna, a lunar deity overriding the solar one, True Mind emerging. It is worthless that the Moon is taken for the soul's true significator! The Moon can be far from the Sun, as it stomps from Sextans to Orion. Venus and 2004 DW in Cancer make a loving pair! This combination seems to be one of the luckiest in astrology at large! Cancer stands for the constellation. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html A large object has been spotted in a disturbing constellation. Hydra is Tiamat and has been rising it's head when important occult operations were conducted, such as the writing of the Book of Law. This puts us on guard against this object, which will, amazingly disclose it's loving side like no Valentine Centaur ever did! Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Since the young reader might not be acquainted with Thelema or whatever shumerian monsters, we owe him an explanation. Better, here's another example! Lovecraft often threathened with gods and forces from old, the ancients, finding their way from sealed past tombs into this world. The Necronomicon is said to be one such dubious unlocking key for more devils to come in and play. The Star Wars fans will know the Sith and Krath, Naga Sadow, Freedon Nadd, Ulic Qel-Droma and of course Extar Kun. The Force has no dark or bright side as Dao knows neither yin nor yang. It is the use of the Force to determine it's color. 2007 with Venus approaching Hydra's Head through Hydra's demon minister Sextans, with so much Satrun and Regulus has already been marked as special. This time we have a devilish object influenced by Saturn (Venus translates Saturn's energy bumping into 2002 AW197). All luciferian implications of Venus are activated as Saturn stands for the king (Regulus) of Hell itself, in person, so to say. = Visiting the Monsters = 2004 DW and Hydra - Tiamut © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW An object larger than Quaoar has been discovered recently. This article will require some familiarity with the True Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra, (Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation use: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html Important objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian. Note that 2004 DW scratches Hydra's back visiting her monsters. This is more like towards a homework for the students, since we sometime work on the delineations twogether. 2004 DW in Sextans, Crater and Corvus is like three plagues if we observe the dark side of 2004 DW, and this object most certainly has it! "Visiting the Monsters" can be said to happen roughly every 100 years or so. We are risking quite some accuracy at this point, the orbital elements being still updating, but you've got the idea. When sitchinian Tiamut is taken for ex planet and her "monsters" = ministers are sattelites (e.g. evil Wind), we launch our experimental nibiric binary system on the basis of old chinese codes, see also Nibiru under http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html ( Enuma Elish ). Abouts: 28 Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39 Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno All Objects on http://groups.google.com Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html Scourge/Whip of God or the Tail of the Devil ? 2004 DW Largest KBO Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW = 2004 DW a Bat out of Hell = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html The devil, personal or otherwise, has been dubbed "voladero", using Carlos Castaneda's firsthand hellish experiences and some of our own. This object, more than Quaoar, will resist delineation, worse than in the remote case of Varuna, the unfathomable object. For Varuna see http://groups.google.com When we say man has two minds, we allude to the foreign install averagely at the tender age of three being not our mind at all. Compare with "Dark City" and "Matrix" the movies. The position of this major transneptunian object in Hydra is close to the Ascendant of the Book of Law, Kairo 1904. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org Let not the word "love" be associated with popular sexual allusion only. 2004 DW has much thelemitic about it as Love is the Law, but Love under a Strong Will (or, rather, True Will). Love is terrifying to everyone. It terrified people who met "angels", like the One who wrestled with the "ally" "at Peniel" (Face of God). (A form of the word "Peniel", in fact determines the angel, as well as the wrestlinground). This object's totems are the four archangels. Meaning the four royal stars of Persia. The main problem with simple interpretation of this "object"-spirit is that it bears both Love Divine and the most terrifying wrath of Satan in it's own lap! With Chariklo and 2004 DW at the lap-bottom, Venus going into a mad loop with Saturn Regulus and kissing 2002 AW197, August 2007 seems to be the birthplace of Satan. I was tempted to determine the birth time for the "ideal" antiChrist, using this new object and perhaps I did the work too well. Namely, Venus in it's lowest position and retrograde, heading towards Hydra with a strong ifluence from Saturn and Regulus alone "make me wonder". We have copious material about "extrazodiacal" Venus on the site and http://groups.google.com "Venus+extrazodiacal". Some will justly conclude that the Devil himself paid us a visit (as if he wasn't in our every cradle?). In 2004 DW the absurd but deadly victory of the inorganic pest we call the personal devil (voladero) clashes with the triumphing True Mind. Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and 2004 DW) in Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation, rather inclined towards loneliness). Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Abouts: Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html 28 Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39 Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno All Objects on http://groups.google.com Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra The label "Aiwass" for the planetoid is provisory, and as are this fairly accurate ephemeris by Jon Giorgini of NASA JPL, to whom go all our thanks and esteem. Please assume the object is still a puzzle as it's orbital elements are being determined with progressive precision. In the first days of the discovery, it was thought a cubewano, then a plutino, and it's relative magnitude is still estimated. As son as the object's orbital elements are esteemed reliable, numerical integration is possible for distant dates. Aldo Vitagliano and his Solex software use the NASA model to calculate dates otherwise not supplied by NASA HORIZONS. Aleister Crowley 2004 DW 1875-Sep-20 00:00 288.9969990 8.7303227 1875-Oct-01 00:00 288.9629561 8.7020916 1875-Oct-12 00:00 288.9919660 8.6722306 1875-Oct-23 00:00 289.0843245 8.6425650 1875-Nov-03 00:00 289.2384987 8.6147722 The 1600 - 2100 ephemeris are on the site. The files are comparatively large (over 1 Mb). Mail for compressiOM! Largest discovery after Pluto! http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Adenda ====== Pallas and Juno have been included. Juno is too small to have any meaning in modern astrology, being dwarfed by too many minor planets, but it retains a historical ... charm. Albeit small, Pallas is considerably up the perimeter range. The giant transneptunians have been dwarfing the main belters for quite some time now. Pallas meets 2004 DW in Hydra. Pallas wherabouts in short. = NEAT Pallas = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html April 1st 2004 Pallas and giant comet NEAT meet in Eridanus constellation. Hopefully the river Po in Italy will not flood, as Eridanus is that precise river. Pallas leaves Cetus (where it was able to conjunct Moon in Cetus) for Eridanus and NEAT, heading towards it's doom in Al Nitak or CINGVLA ORIONUS. http://puck.dhs.org/nu Orion O5IRIS Both Eridanus and Orion are operative constellations used in astrology. We don't use just the 28 zodiacal, but all the 88 constellations, completing embracing enfolding inspiring and overhelming our belowed coocoon astral energy body like an egg projecting or being Omniverse itself, as the Eagle presses His Intent unto us. Those with Aquila ascending (roughly Chiron around the ascendant) may have Juno in Scutum (see article) around the ascendant at this time. Pallas in CINGVLA ORIONIS will be delineated for the inner circle of O5IRIS students. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org = Ascendental Warning = It is often tricky to determine when an object is on the ascendant, as we have clearly pointed at in the cases of some astrologer's charts http://puck.dhs.org /alan.leo While 2004 DW in Hydra is a normal ascendental position, the neighboring example of Chariklo in Crater serves for an example in cases when 2004 DW will visit that constellation. When due East ( = the ascendant proper ) is in Virgo ( a fairly large constellation ), Crater with Chariklo are ascending, too. One may say his due eastern ascendant is Virgo, with Chariklo rising in Crater. It seems the only way to put it. Thus we treat several ascending constellations in some cases, namely the true due eastern constelllation ad the neighboring one. In different times different constellations are due eastern. Crater was and will be such a constellation and it is interesting to note Aries can rise in due east roughly in times when Crater does so. The two cannot ascend in due east when it comes to our present time. http://puck.dhs.org/nu for details! * The following verses have to do with 28zodiacal astrology. In the case of Pallas meeting 2004 DW in Hydra, our object is directly involved. In other cases it is either in some sort of aspect like (large) opposition or it is not involved at all. The following are just examples from a broader survey on the 28zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/extra Do astrologers use constelaltions like Ophiucus or Auriga? They do! The stars are there! Also: the discoveries are there, e.g. Quaoar in Ophiucus. As Quaoar is far from Sagittarius, so is 2004 DW far from Leo. Is there any difference? There is! If your Moon is in Sextans, you are prone to discrete aloofness, lonely pursuit, and may even be too shy to form a relation (or too ambitious to keep it). Moon in sextans people simply work too much, think too much and the yellow brick road to hell is paved with golden benevolence. Too much of a good thing? Perhaps losing an edge is not that bad for concentration. Monasteries may abound with Moon in Sextans people. New Year 2004 nativities are bent towards any occult pursuit and wil enjoy memorable fish dinners, as their Moon is in Cetus. Popular programs like astrolog.org by Walter Pullen can perform fairly well in the area of 28zodiacal and extrazodiacal astrology. The function is $ astrolog -XF -Xi -Xr -Xm You should obtain something like Juno in Scutum and that's 28zodiacal astrology proper (albeit the zodiac pertains to the planets, only partially /so-to-say/ to the minor planets. Et voila! March hares 2004 have Juno in Scutum? Are they mad? = Juno in Scutum = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html 28zodiacal astrology includes Scutum constellation. Being born with Aquila ascending this days means having Juno in Scutum in the 12th or 1st house. Never use tropical calculus to know which, one, it'll fail. What is this position about? The evil majikian uses his majik mirror and fogs timespace. Especially time. Time lapses get less reliable here. Marriage gets dull. There's agression ahead of an average sullen day. Triangle relationships break up and one finds oneself temporarely alone. Allone eternal but constancy does not mean escaping the tooth of time. The practice of time discreation. Intent enables teleportation. Marriage was determined from the start as if parameters won't change. The very institution of marriage is not only in crisis: it is unbearable: nothing there for the neophyte. © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org So if I have Chiron ascending, Juno is in the 12th house in Scutum? Is that getting too exciting? What about some more? Beware the serpent's tail, since it is about to hit! = Pluto in Serpens Cauda = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Let it be noted that, while Pluto is still in Ophiucus at the time of the article, it'll move into Serpens Cauda towards 2006 and it'll be Jupiter rejoicing with Ixion, Quaoar and 2002 MS4 in Ophiucus at that time. Thus Serpens Cauda is not a fictious invention of some 28zodiacal astronomy, it is a real planetary position (while Pluto is still a planet). While a bunch of astronomers (rare fellows) will agree on a 28 constellation zodiac, we have found convenient to split Serpens into it's two halves, thus we have Pluto in Serpens Caput (Alpha Serpentis!) and Pluto in Serpens Cauda, the mild version of the evil star conjunction. Search http://groups.google.com for delineations. See also data base http://puck.dhs.org/extrazodiacal People will be born with several planets in Ophiucus, which in fact is not rare at all, Ophiucus being a large zodiacal constellation. What _is_ rare is to have a planet in Scorpius. The narrow stripe of zodiacal Scorpius with it's Antares star (and archangel) allows for an extremely brief sojourn of any planet. The Sun may spend from 6 to 7 days in that constellation, making Scorpius nativities extremely rare. People are of course made to believe they're born in this or that "sign" by people who'll never know their own Sun's position. That is only the dawning of the age of error, as we have people running around with positions erroneous by two houses or two "signs", believing one is a "Scorpio". Myself born Nov 28 have Sun conjunct Antares and am qualified as true Scorpius. But how many of you can claim that position? © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org

Do we have only 13 zodiacal constellations, or up to 24? = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html It is widely ignored that the true zodiacal band does not contain 13 constellations only (Ophiucus including), but also a motley variety of constellations usually unknown to the average astrologer. If Pluto was a planet, we would have 28 zodiacal constellations. If we discard Pluto as a mere transneptunian it is, we have a neat set of 24 (on the double!) constellations. Expanding with Pluto, that for most astrologers is nothing but a planet, we have the following 28 constellations the planets travel through at this time and age: = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org The 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma Berenices Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemini Hydra Leo Leo Minor Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org We have stated the Sun dwells "only 5 days" in Scorpius, while it can apparently extend it's Scorpius sojourn to a week! The largest constellation occupying the zodiac band is Virgo, where the Sun lodges for 46 days. We have the Moon moving through Libra, Scorpius and Ophiucus for this Valentine. Let there be noted that the Sun is in Ophiucus for an average of 18 days, roughly from Nov 30th to Dec 17th every year. Transneptunians like Quaoar, Pluto or 2002 MS4, as well as giant plutino Ixion are likely to dwell there for extended periods. The Sun spends an average of 23 days in Libra, 7 in Scorpius and 18 in Ophiucus. This may vary from year to year, of course. It is therefore a challenge for the incipient astrologer to calculate his natal Sun's position. = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org The progressions of the planets have been called "extrazodiacal", while there's in fact nothing "extrazodiacal" in Orion or Ophiucus and the rest, since the planets dwell quite normally there. We had Saturn in Orion last year (and during the world wars), Usama had the Moon near Xi Orionis and so did the WTC tragedy. Scutum or Auriga may look arcane, but there is a score of positions that are common place (e.g. Keanu Reeves' Mercury in Sextans), like this year's Venus in Orion or recent Venus in Ophiucus. http://puck.dhs.org/extra /cetus http://puck.dhs.org/nu /sambora © 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Valentine marks the end of Sun's journey through Capricornus and it's entry into Aquarius. But does the Sun determine the Zodiac? O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://puck.dhs.org Homework for my Students: Which objects visit Serpens Cauda, Serpens Caput, Canis Minor or Auriga? When (if ever) does it happen that Pluto travels through Pisces or Aries? Can Crater be ascending? Which major centaur dwells in Crater? Progress 2002 AW197 in Tiamat's surrounding. How many days _after_ Valentine the Sun enters into Aquarius? = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://puck.dhs.org ________ SMS + 385 91 108 108 4 O5 booking, info. EXTRAzodiacal Astrology ananta@spunge.org http://ghettobox.dhs.org/pucklist © 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. News and your posts: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5

Od 1992 je odkrito kar 800 KBO transneptuniana (to so SDO, cubewano-si, plutino-i). Prvi je bil 1992 QB1. Najvechji so 2004 DW , Quaoar , 2002 TX300 , 2002 AW197 , Ixion, Varuna, ... Za vechino vechjih sem napisal karakteristike. Vsi so del horoskopa. Vsi kentavrji so tudi (predvsem novejshi in vechji) del horoskopa. Seveda to vse na podlagi (zelo trdi;) zelo trde tradicionalne direkcionalne, blahblah astrologije.

Lahko ga tropikalno "merimo" kot naj bi bil "v Levu" pa je to zelo, hm, posimplitev; Nekaj efemerid je v direktoriju. Moram she vprashato Jon Giorgini-ja (NASA JPL) che drzhi za 1600. Opservacije so od 1951 = objekt ima zhe odlichno dolochene orbitalne elemente. Nekaj simulacuija bomo naredili za Krishno pa to. Ko bo chasa;( http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Saj vem da 'mam zapetljan jezik. :xx!: Lahko se vzame da ga 'mamo na 25 Leva. Za radovedne je nekaj desno od leva. Tiamat (Tiamut) je Hydra z tri demona-ministra Corvus Crater in Sextans. Luna pa she nekaj planet hodijo v te konstelacije (ta ozvezdja). Denimo Luna na ta zadnje redno prihaja v Cetus, Merkur v Sextans, Venera bo v Orion, Hydra pa je pogosto v Sextans. Out of bound planets so tisti planeti ko imajo extremne deklinacije. To je prav pogosto. Pluton vedno ima extremno deklinacijo kot da ni planet (saj ni?). /* Pri Varuni, Ixionu in Quaor-ju sem imel vech chasa, zdej sem na knap:( */ === Data === Trenutna pozicija plutino 2004 DW http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/2OO4DW.GIF === Novi Valentine Centaur 2004 CJ39, kakor gigant 2004 DW in ostale pomembne objekte vedno takoj mechem v horoskope. Eni moji klijenti seveda imajo ascendent Hydra, kar je ta ascendent okultan. Merjeno tropikalno se "zdi" da je 2004 DW v Levu. Zodijak ima 28 ozvezdij zato kar se Luna, Pluton, Venera in pravzaprav vsi planeti gibljejo mal gor mal dol;) O tem sem pisal http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck 28 Za enkrat je opis objekta okultan, telemitichan, ... masonski;) pa ga bojo prav gotovo banarilizali z cajtom. Objekt se ne giblje sploh chez "normalna" ozvezdja na katera je astroloshka publika navajena. Torej po Hydra se giblje nazaj v Sextans Crater Corvus, itn. Chariklo kentavrica je v Crater (Graal ozvezdju) in je "chist zraven" gigant 2002 AW. V ljubezni 2004 DW pomeni "ljubezen po ljubosumnju ali skozi ljubosumnje". V partnerju lahko vidimo hudicha ali pa uzhivamo idealno prestavo. Rojeni 1984 imajo 2004 v -< Rak-u z kentavrico Hylonome, agresivnim sexistom Nessus v Aquila (Orel) ozvezdju in Thereus. To je zelo komplicirana emotivnost. === Primeri: asc endent Sextans (tezhave z partnerstvom, masonerija) z 2004 DW v 12ti hishi v Hydra. http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/SEXTANS.GIF 2007 z Venero v Hydra. http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/2007A.GIF http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/2007A.GIF

Definicija "planeta" je na ta zadnje vprashljiva. Pluton je "plutino". Prichakuje se nekaj kot 5 vechjih "planetoidov" magar v tem letu, pa nekaj Super-Plutona. Torej ve se za mozhnost velikih objektov. Enega (Nibiru) se m'nda delajo kot da ga ne vidijo;) Vech kot 1800 km velikosti (pa je to moja "ocena". Na hitr sem;) Nahaja se v Hydra, Alphard je chist blizo. Vpliv je demonski, pa tudi zelo prijazen. Efemeride in opis na engleshchini izhaja na http://puck.dhs.org /2004DW http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html Hydra je lahko ascendentalna. Kakshne normalne efemeride objavim. Mislem da ga 'mate na astro.ch. groups.google.com pa to "2004 DW+pluto". http://www.dogpile.com Zodijak pravzaprav v kompletu ima 28 ozvezdij (planete hodijo sem pa tja). http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck Nekaj sem ga pO5pravil po hishah pa zaradi O5 inicijacija nimam cajta na ta zadnje. Telemitski se gre za Aiwass. To sem _skoraj_ siguren, zato, je hudich za ene pa ljubezen (ta prava) za druge. Zdej what is love? Marsa te sms-am, che bo kej nov'ga, ok? Magar se tudi srechava pa razlozhim v zhivo, velik je tega... A snezhi? Na morju kar. Maha Shivaratri je zelo mochen to leto. Odkrit je i Valentine Centaur. Brskaj arhive. A se slishava? Mislem imava _skoraj_ novi planet. Ista Quaoar ekipa;) Ime bo dobil po kakshnem podzemnem bogu kot je to kajastvem, nekaj hudga. Gre se za nekaj kot 25 leva (napamet). Po Hydra gre v Sextans pa Crater, Corvus. Venera je v Orionu v Augustu in 2005 (?) v Hydra. Ascendent Hydra Venera z 2004 DW kakshni otroci. Antikrista sem si kar zrachunal zhe kdaj pa to. Tole bom popravil zelo sem na hitro in napamet pishem;( Se vidva Claudio. http://puck.dhs.org/nu/5gram /4STARS.TXT

"2004 DW" plutino (transneptunian) je v Hydra-i, in je kar vechji od Charon in Quaoar. Veliki objekt se _ne_ mudi:) na 25 Leva. Seveda to pomeni da je merjen "tropikalno" v virtualnem Levu, gifovi kazhejo kjer je Regulus (archangel MIKAL) in Jupiter: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/JUPITER.GIF http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/EASTASCE.GIF Primer za Benetke ko je Jupiter na horizontu in Sextans na ascendentu (iztok = E). http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/JUPITER.GIF http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW/%202004%20DW%20...ion%20update%20 http://puck.dhs.org/nu/5gram/4STARS.TXT

Ljubezen se izve z direkcijami, torej leto, mesec, dan, ura, minuta; predvsem leto dogodka. Razlichne direkcije torej diktirajo ljubezni. Seveda v primeru da imamo horoskop partnerja lahko direktiramo davison horoskop natanchno na dan. Tako izvemo dan porok in podobno. Za vedati natanchno kdaj se ljubezni dogajajo potrebno je izvedati horizont in meridijan. Z tem vemo ozvezdja, itn. Denimo Sextans na iztoku ponavadi ne obeta poroke itn itn... Fanj se mej!

Neptun je vishja instanca od Sonca. Pravzaprav je Neptun vladar sonchevega sistema. Sonce bo hudich oziroma false ego, Neptun pa Bindu, yinyang ali pa (ajnacakra) dveri onega svetu. Ko se razvije (pri budhi) "krunska cakra" ... hmmm ... Neptun je "krona", Kether. Ni enostavno vedati v kjeri je hishi. Za to porabite nekaj izrachuna.

Ne. Pa lahko. Samo gre se potem za karmichno zamujanje. Mashchule se narobe-um (ego, hudich, voladero), ne pa ta pravi nash originalni um (True Mind).