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O5IRIS inicijacija Vam daja (dis)kreacijo cakr, predvsem delamo z "Bindu". Gre se za postopni "clearing" od najnizhje do pseudo-cakre na temenu. Vidi she http://www.yogacentar.hr Swami Brahmajnanananda

Che je Luna v Dvojchkih in resnichno v 12ti hishi, potem se gre za _kjer_ v tem ozvezdju. Dve zvezde niso enake, ena je smrtna, drugi dvojchek pa ne. Vidi she Tahuti Tarot. Che je Luna izhajala (gre se za horizont), potemtakem je v 12ti hishi, drugach pa ne! Seveda veliko napak je tle mogoche. She nekaj: Bellatrix je v Orion-u, Luna je lahko pri X1 1 in Xi 2 Orionis, torej v Orionu. Beatlejuice in Rigel, Pi zvezde Ozirosovog Ank-a in CINGVLA ORIONIS (Al Nitak, Al Nilam, Mintaka) so v Orionu (penis Ozirisa). http://puck.dhs.org/extra

Vietnamski in kitajski horoskopi niso tako enostavni. Seveda se gre za 28 ozvezdja in veliko tega. Zhe 5 minut naredi zrazliko, kjer pa ure ali celo dnevi. Pozicija Jupiterja je bolj bistvena kot "leto konja". Pa duh Jupiterja;)

Gre se za Luna Uran aflikcije. Sem pa tja se gre za Mars Saturn aflikcije. Temni Planet Sappho (_ne_ main belt asteroid) regulira bisexualnost. Luna 90 Uran je seveda pogost (very reliable) aspekt bifurkacije.

Zanimive so inicijacije v Tarot. Gre se za dolge inicijacije v I II in III "karto". V enem zhivljenju magar utegnemo vsaj malo spoznati prvo "karto". I Magus.

SnowCrash se dogaja ko O5 praktikant SPROZHI DOGODEK V MINUTAH (ure so ok, dnevi tudi), torej INSTANT KREACIJA. Za to porabi ... minute! Nikoli ne vidi kar dela zateo kar se gre za MENTALNO tehnologijo. O5 lahko vporabi vsepovsod, pravzaprav inicijacija poteka vsepovsod in ob tem cajtu! Pravkar se inicirash! Torej gre se za direktno vstvarjanje dogodkov. Ne porabite nich vech kot O5 da bi se sanje materijalizirale celo v minutah (SnowCrash). Vsakdanje chudezhi Vas chakajo. Zainteresirani lahko mejlajo ananta@spunge.org kjer dobijo (upam) pravilni text z slovenskimi chrkami;) Pravkar potekajo O5IRIS inicijacije! O5, O5IRIS, Miracle Works Initiation Candidates are welcome to suppy their natal data. The initiations usually last one day and a half with the average price of 200 euros per day. Discounts available for genuine initiates and neophytes. Business O5 average = 100 euros per hour. Peripatetic sessions in Venice from 50 euros for a 4 hours average. Send your e-mail and natal data to ananta@spunge.org SMS + 385 91 108 108 4 Klaudio Zic Valentin Solis O5 by e-mail from 200 euros per month. ananta@spunge.org http://ghettobox.dhs.org/pucklist © 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. News and your posts: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 O5 The following phases are important: AFFIRMATION in which we strongly affirm the wanted reality 1. IDENTIFICATION (2.) in which we assume the responsability for the obstacle by becoming the obstacle and expanding it to the limit 3. NAMING labeling the obstacle for deletion 4. DISCLAIMING desidentification 5. LETTING GO while the negativity autodissolves into oblivion, the released energy is used to strongly focus on the AFFIRMATION of our desired and ideal reality news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 http://puck.dhs.org O5 Oberon5 magijska tehnika u pet koraka za (dis)kreiranje željene realnosti. Osnovni pojmovi: ALFA= pozitivna, jaka afirmacija, rijeè, reèenica, slika, simbol koji odražava naš . naum, jasnu namjeru stvaranja neèega. BETA= otpor realizaciji alfe, bilo tko i bilo što na bilo kom nivou što sprjeèava, smeta da se naša alfa manifestira kao željena realnost. ALFA Alfa može biti: autosugestija ili afirmacija, tzv. idealna scena i karta skrivenog blaga, sigil, mantra... AUTOSUGESTIJA ILI AFIRMACIJA: je jaka pozitivna izjava da je nešto veæ takvo, formirano, postojeæe. Afirmacije uvijek izražavamo u sadašnjem vremenu, znaèi da bi oblik “Ja sam zdrav.” ili “Ja sam savršeno zdravlje” bio prihvatljiv, umjesto “Ja æu biti zdrav”. Afirmaciju uvijek izražavati pozitivnom reèenicom “Ja neæu biti kukavica” se ne smatra povoljnim oblikom nego “Ja sam hrabar”. Afirmacija može biti jedna reèenica(kratka i jasna), rijeè, više reèenica okupljenih oko iste namjere. Bolje je koristiti kraæe reèenice i istovremeno ne raditi sa afirmacijama za razlièite svrhe. Afirmacije igovaramo glasno, šapatom, mentalno, dok radimo, vježbamo, hodamo, trèimo, pišemo ih, slušamo(mentalno ili sa kazete, CD-a)... Zanimljiva je tehnika pisanja afirmacija u sva tri lica jednine: JA xyz sam_____ . Ti xyz si _____ . xyz je _____ . Pri èemu je zgodno zamisljati kako nam netko govori upravo ono što afirmiramo, ili netko o nama to govori. Pritom je bitno svaki otpor, negativnu misao, stav, svako nemoj, ne smiješ, nemoguæe, registrirati i diskreirati. Mi se pri afirmiranju ne koristimo prisilom niti uvjeravanjem, veæ na jedan odluèan/opušten naèin utjeèemo na naše stavove, uvjerenja. Izrada idealne scene i karte skrivenog blaga. Ovo su jednostavne, zabavne i efikasne tehnike u izazivanju promjena u matrixu po volji. Kod izrade idealne scene jednostavno odaberemo jedan cilj za odreðeno životno podruèje te jasno opišemo cijelu situaciju kao da je taj cilj ostvaren u potpunosti. Opis je u sadašnjem vremenu tj. vrijede sva uputstva kao i kod izrade afirmacija, s tim da ovdje koristimo više reèenica za opis odreðene situacije.Na kraju opisa dodati:”Ovo ili nešto bolje, sada se manifestira za mene.Na potpuno zadovoljavajuæe i harmoniène naèine, za najviše dobro svih nas.” Karta skrivenog blaga je materijalna slika željene realnosti. Ona stvara jasnu i oštru predodžbu naše alfe.Izraðuje se crtanjem, izradom kolaža iz slika izrezanih iz magazina, razglednica, prospekata ... Kod izrade mape s blagom mi se isto kao i u idealnoj sceni prikazujemo u veæ ostvarenoj željenoj situaciji, sa potpuno ostvarenim ciljem.Poželjno je karte raditi posebno za svaki cilj ili životno podruèje radi lakšega fokusa pažnje pri radu(gledanju). Obavezno staviti sebe u kartu, fotografije daju vrlo realistiène rezultate. Velièina karte je proizvoljna, od malog papriæa pa do slike preko cijeloga zida. Uvijek ukljuèiti simbole, slike, formule, koje oznaèavaju Boga –da nas podsjeti odakle sve dolazi. Koristiti dosta boja, neka slika bude živa. Upisati odgovarajuæe afirmacije, simbole, sigile, te sto je bitno uokviriti mapu npr. iscrtati 1,5 cm širok okvir voštanim bojama, flomasterom, priljepiti okvir itd. Opet kao i kod idealne scene ukljuèiti afirmaciju: “Ovo ili nešto bolje sada se oèituje za mene. Na potpuno zadovoljavajuæe i harmoniène naèine za najviše dobro svih nas.” Provesti svaki dan uz kartu i O5 neko vrijeme je sve što je potrebno, mada se èini da su i mape sa stalnim prebivalištem u ormaru poprilièno efikasne. Izrada i upotreba sigila. Ovo je vrlo jednostavna i efikasna tehnika u kojoj naš naum jasno definiramo te izrazimo u nekom simboliènom obliku koji u pravilu ni po èemu ne asocira na željeno. Zgodno je sigil izraditi tako da najprije jasno izrazimo ono što hoæemo, izbacimo sva slova koja se javljaju dva ili više puta, te preostala aranžiramo u monogram, slièicu, nekakav naš simbol koji je u ovom slucaju naša alfa. Slova je moguæe izraziti raznim simbolima, alfabetima, runama koji se isto tako mogu koristiti pri konstrukciji sigila.Dalje možemo konstruirati mantre, anagrame i sl. Integriranje sigila u “podsvjesno” vrši se na zaista razne naèine npr. neti- neti proces, i u stanju praznine istu ispunimo našim sigilom(nosaè namjere) te nakon toga više ne mislimo na sigil i cijeli proces. Naravno ako smo u stanju bez misli, ako nismo- možemo nesto zanimljivo èitati i sl. BETA Um se sastoji od parova suprotnosti, tako da za svaku našu alfu imamo i betu koja se javlja u vidu otpora, suprotnih misli, osjeæaja.To mogu biti prošla negativana iskustva koja jednom proživljena više nièemu ne služe veæ samo stvaraju i održavaju unutarnje i vanjske prepreke svakoj pozitivnoj promjeni, isto je i sa zabranama, utjecajem medija itd. Jasno je da za svaku alfu imamo i po cijele èopore beta(parova suprotnosti alfa/beta), ili tek nezamjetne “male” bete s kojima se postupa na isti naèin- diskreira ih se O5 tehnikom. Ukratko O5 procedura bi tekla ovako: ALFA- jasno namjeravaj cilj (identifikacija sa alfom) Registriraj bete STOPI SE, IDENTIFICIRAJ SA BETOM PROŠIRI SE DO KRAJNJIH GRANICA IZAÐI IZ BETE I IMENUJ JE ODRECI SE BETE ODVRATI PAŽNJU, NE RADI NIŠTA, PUSTI BETU DA SE DISKREIRA Reafirmiraj ALFU(identifikacija sa alfom) IDENTIFIKACIJA Bete možemo zamisliti na razne naèine(crni oblak), ponekada veæ imaju gotove oblike.Pravila kako bete izgledaju nema, a neka je svatko za svoj sluèaj zamisli upravo onako kako mu se èini da izgleda. Znaèi beta ima odreðeni oblik+ energija bete, kasnije æe dobiti i ime.Prvi korak pri diskreaciji bete je da se identificiramo tj. postanemo to što nam smeta, što mrzimo, na što smo ljuti, pri tome ne pružajuæi bilo kakav otpor niti to radimo silom. Mi prenosimo našu svijest u betu i beta postajemo. Za vježbu ovoga koraka radimo prijenos svijesti u kamenje, biljke, životinje, ljude, mora, planine, planete, ideje(damo joj oblik)...npr.5min biti maèka je ok, samo ovdje ništa ne diskreiramo.Pri diskreaciji poistovjeæujemo se sa betama.Teško da se može za veæinu ljudi govoriti o 100% identifikaciji, ali i djelomièna je ok.U trenutku identifikacije mi percipiramo sa toèke gledišta objekta identifikacije koji smo u tom trenutku mi sami. Pri diskreaciji poistovjeæujemo se sa betama, pri kreaciji sa alfama. Korak dalje.Dubinska toèka(baricentar). Ovo je vrlo bitan dio cijele tehnike i èini je vrlo moænom.Na ovome dijelu diskreacionoga procesa mi presaðujemo, sažimamo našu svijest u samu dubinsku toèku, centar moæi bete. Kod èovjeka to je toèka cca 7 cm ispod pupka i nešto prema kralježnici (prouèi chi kung, tai chi, aikido...). Pošto sve ima svoju dubinsku toèku kao i pri uvježbavanju prvog koraka i ovdje radimo sa raznim objektima po želji, u smislu vježbe i dobivanja specifiènog osjeæaja potrebnog da bi “držali” baricentar. Pri diskreaciji radimo sa betama ma što/tko god one bile (i bilo gdje). Sažimamo svijest u dubinskoj toèki bete do te mjere(atom), da je prostor bete poput cijelog svemira, a mi smo mu u samom centru moæi. 2.)Širenje do krajnjih granica bete. Sada zapoèinjemo sa dubokim udahom, udišuæi betu širimo se iz baricentra do njenih krajnjih granica. Udah je bitan detalj, a do krajnjih granica znaèi do “kože i vrhova kose” bete. 3.)Ovdje smo izvan bete. Proširili smo se do krajnjih granica i sada neutralno promatramo betu iz daljine te je imenujemo. U jednom nehajnom maniru priljepimo na betu bilo koji prikladan naziv ( x, beta, smeæe). Ovo je bitno jer sve što postoji ima ime i oblik. Sve se ovo obavlja opušteno i gotovo nehajno. 4.)Ta beta(znamo kako se zove i kako izgleda) je naša kreacija. Preuzimamo u ovoj toèki odgovornost za postojanje bete, bilo koje bete koju diskreiramo. Ona je tu samo zato jer smo je mi sami stvorili a više je ne trebamo i odrièemo je se. “Ova x beta je moja nekadašnja a sada bespotrebna kreacija, ne treba mi više, upotrijebit æu njezinu energiju za nešto konstruktivno.” Možemo se koristiti i kraæim izjavama, bitan je smisao i princip rada. 5.)U ovome koraku ne radimo ništa veæ odvratimo pažnju i pustimo da se beta sama od sebe diskreira. Reafirmiraj alfu. Opet se nakon diskreaciju poistovjetimo sa alfom (afirmacija, mapa blaga, sigil...). Ako je potrebno, ako se javi beta ponovimo proces diskreacije. Literatura: Franz Bardon: Inicijacija u hermetizam Keith Sherwood:Umijeæe iscjeljivanja PeterCarroll: Liber null & Psychonaut Shakti Gawain: Kreativna vizualizacija Klaudio Žic puck.dhs.org Nadam se da bi ovo bilo u redu. Pozdrav!

From: xmas@arbornet.org (EXTRAzodiacal Astrology) Newsgroups: alt.astrology.moderated,alt.astrology,alt.astrology.marketplace,alt.astrology.as ian Subject: Re: Personal Asteroids + Pholus References: <BC0B95EC.5811%Libralove@austin.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.198.1.4 Message-ID: <b438d658.0312220654.7bf06be7@posting.google.com> Libralove © 2001 - 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved http://puck.dhs.org * Planet Pholus, the Wanderer * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pholus in Houses 1. This is a position of the cosmopolitan mind. Pholus on the ascendant or in the first house marks a mobile and unregular life. As an example we have the traveling photographer. 2. Roaming access to your account and temporary loss of money when Pholus is in the second house. 3. Briefs such as this analysis, quick schedule builders, blitz interviews and a sense of overall improvisation with Pholus in third. 4. Changes are studied and patterns of timespace arrange for insight with Pholus nadiring. 5. Celibacy and meditation with Pholus in fifth. One definitively has no love for trivia. To others he might seem a troublemaker. 6. Pholus in sixth. Rituals such as of left tantra. Success as seaman. Swiss banks protect your capital. A discrete standard even after heavy taxing. 7. Unmarried does not mean haremless. When Pholus is in the 7th house, the soul mate is from another place. It might even be off the planet or from dreamland. 8. This is a very loving position. Tears will clean the way to sincerity. Davison relationship synastry reports will determine the time of love. 9. Dreaming together and contacts with your guru in the astral kingdom. Pholus is about traveling and is accordingly obviousely strong in 12th 3rd and 9th. 10. Artists could profit from this position. The would be guru has yet to discard his human frame. Media like TV. 11. Moving inside his own clan he keeps the core sincere. Pholus is a happy family man when the big clan prospers and perhaps lively transactions happen from within it's circle. An advice is to increase severity and nevertheless cherish the woman as the centre of the clan. This is NASDAQ's position. 12. Samadhi is the end of married life. Yin and Yang unmarry here. Tao knows neither Yin nor Yang. One quits entangling himself with the world of duty, parents long gone, he quits mindane business and has his ego as the only devil to face to the end. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ <Libralove@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:<BC0B95EC.5811%Libralove@austin.rr.com>... > Nona Gwynn Press (I believe it was) and a number of other asteroid lovers > have said that "personal asteroids" are very important. I heard a tape once > about Princess Diana and her asteroid, Diana. Also the asteroid, Dodu (Dodi) > in her chart. > > It does not have to be the exact same spelling of your name or you SIG > other's name. > > I am doing a synastry with a couple that the woman's personal asteroid in > the man's natal chart has just progressed to an exact conjunction with the > man's Sec. Prog. Asc after 3 years absence, asteroid "Linda" is on him > again. So a personal reconnection with/woman's personal name asteroid. > > Anyone else use personal name asteroids? > > The guy's N. Pholus is also exactly on the woman's N. Dsc. > > Here's what these guys say about Pholus at: > > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7969/pholus.htm > > " POSSIBLE KEYWORDS > > * awakening > * borderline(-situations, in double sense) > * scaling > * the unconscious takes control > * freeing, release > * facing lacks, undeveloped aspects > * euphoric feelings > * unstable and new (sometimes dangerous) situations, difficult to deal > with > * intensity, intensifier > * to be spurred on > * to "stumble" in new situations" > > > "Robert and Dieter published an article on Pholus in The Mountain > Astrologer. They wrote that "the discovery of Pholus marked the beginning of > important progress in the field of astronomy. It held answers to many > questions that Chiron had raised." And, "Translated into astrological terms, > this means that Chiron brings long and helpless waiting, while Pholus, on > the other hand, brings immediate progress." > > "Nick Campion quotes Robert as saying of Pholus that "He intensifies very > strong, brings you to your limits, raises a strong urge for growing (but > often very spontaneously and unconscious), when at the same time you feel a > lack of inner possibilities to grow in that specific area. Therefore you > live in a very unstable 'borderline' situation, where you tend to do things > impulsive (to cross the border) or you don't do anything at all, because you > feel an inner blockade." > > What the heck does that last sentence mean? Is this astrological mumbo > jumbo, or not? Sounds like it is either "stop" or "go" OR "on" of "off" just > like Uranus -- a binary thing. Any ideas about this one? > > Interesting about "apoptosis" programmed cell death, which I work with all > the time in cell biology, was discovered at the same time. > > Pholus was killed by a bit of poison from a poisoned arrow that he was > pulling out of (helping) another centaur remove. > > Any Pholus followers out there? -- LL

Pa she nekaj na engleshchini... http://groups.google.com/groups?q=extrazod...&oe=UTF-8&hl=en From: Claudio Solis (quaoar@phenix.rootshell.be) Subject: Extrazodiacal Ascendants This is the only article in this thread View: Original Format Newsgroups: alt.astrology, alt.magic.chaos Date: 2003-07-23 00:24:55 PST [ This is a repost of the following article: ] [ From: Claudio Solis <quaoar@phenix.rootshell.be> ] [ Subject: Extrazodiacal Ascendants ] [ Newsgroups: alt.astrology.moderated,alt.astrology.marketplace ] [ Message-ID: <bfld6v$1arui$2@sinclair.be.wanadoo.com> ] Astromancer wrote: = Cardinal Constellations in Astrology = © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org Looking at my chart (actually the whole of the stellar globe), I conclude four essential points and begin studying my nativity. http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000002.GIF The ascendant constellation is Monoceros. That gives me a pioneering nature. God knows I'm pioneering. I do nothing else. I have guts to be hated. Tons of. There's Uranus near the ascendant to make thing worse. Pylenor is (uups ...) 1994 TA is right on the ascendant. Recently I have interpreted the placement of a totem unicorn without any hesitation; fungsuey unicorn rotation online. He was to head West, however (the ascending unicorn is East). The Monoceros ascendant loves adventure, travel; it is purposeful, endeavoring, enterprising, headstrong, persistant, likes change (I am the Book of Change) and is ambitious. Well, not bad for the Unicorn constellation. In fact it defines me already. This is far better than being just a Leo, any leo, or whatever. It feels much better than vedic stuff, too. I'm finally breathing: Monoceros ascending when they ask. I'm actually very unicornish, amberan. Ever read `Nine Princes in Amber'? Roger Zelazny. There's even a newsgroup. http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000001.GIF O.K. turn to right. The descendant is Aquila. Besides various occasions, cults and one my initiation, I happen to have one on the wall, it was one of my first majikal feats. I had it in hours. This eagle holds an OYPOBOPOC snake of infinity (ophic mysteries O0IC). The eagle has landed on my descendant and is alteregoing. This Eagle constellation is near the Snake. Objects hover there and we even had (cough) Nibiru there... This Aquila is more like a gryphon. I am doomed to strong women. http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000004.GIF Turn to South. The M.C. is Phoenix. Teatro de la Fenice. Burns, is reborn. I asked I Ching once what to do of the material. It was bulky and I had no room for it any more. Room means room. It occupied a room or two. I burned it. But I keep on writing about I Ching and divination is like breathing for me. I'm not even conscious in that I'm divining, it is too natural for me. Greyhounds... http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000003.GIF Canes Venatici I.C.. Neptune is there. Labradors. Water plus dogs. I am enamored of labradors and could roll with them all night long i marshy swamps and swim into deep lakes. Waterdogs. I guess I'm the ideal dog sitter, well perhaps not ideal... We have thus assembled the four cardinal points. Four is a great number but I must close this article in hope that you had .. fun. Klaudio Zic, Venice Lagoon ___ Dec 22nd 2012 countdown http://puck.dhs.org/stargate CREATE a New World for you with O5. UPDATE your astrological SKIES with EXTRAZODIACAL astrology. Find the meaning of NEW OBJECTS in your HOROSCOPE. Enjoy authentical fun and SURPRISE. http://puck.dhs.org O5 is fun, a technique for the busy city dweller, an entertaining way to do instant majik in daily life. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org matriX time: ~ Sun Jul 20 23:06:59 GMT 2003 ________ © 2003 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

Razlichni so sistemi. Siderealna ima neenaka virtualna ozvezdja, tropikana to smo mi vsi in imamo 12 enakih, vedic-jyotish pa po svom. Che omenjam ozvezdja to moti kar ponavadi shtejemo = Ovna od poletnega ekvinocija. To je nenavadno, pa vseeno to delamo tudi NASA in Harvard. Mene je vedno zanimalo kako sem ja to Strelec ko mi je Sonce na Antares v Skorpius-u. Zdej sem ga dojel z astronomijo. Nobeden nima prav, samo astronomi., Astronomi vseeno vporabljajo tropikalni sistem sem pa tja. Drugach se koordinate (denimo Urana) dolochajo po R.A. in Decl. (in zvezdi). Vseeno nobeden ne ve kdaj se zachne (chez 300 let?) doba Vodnara. Namrech ne vemo natanchno kjer se konchajo zvezde rib;))) Konvencije ne pomagajo. Ko rachunam "prvo ruko" vporabim kar "normalni" (z katerim se ne strinjam) tropikalni sistem = ASTROLOGIJO KAKSHNA JE ZNANA NA SPLOH DANES. Za natanchne rechi vporabljam astronomijo. Potem se zachne vrtet in je zabavno, globoko in pestro.

Seveda "alter" je to da jaz omenjam OZVEZDJA. Karkoli, Chirona so skomercijalizirali do solza. Potem Pholus sploh neznan, itn. Chiron je dovolj denarja prinesel... P.S. Miniguru kar je Jupiter guru. Pholus je tudi guru pa Asbolus (Asbolus je nekaj kot 23 device tropikalno Elipinon stopinja. Asbolus je astrolog, mag, I Ging expert itn. prav danes sem v stiku z uchencem kater ima Asbolus M.C.!). news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 + 385 91 108 108 4 (ta glavni server nekaj servisiramo)

Marsa. Saj se za 21 gre. Na 19 je _bil_ hudich. Zdaj je nekjer na 22? Fortuna!?! Madon'ca. Potemtakem todi hudich dela za tebe. Svanimir Dupor kater nam je prodal autorsko za Duporjeve knjige (za stojadina) 'ma 19 sco ascendent. Poznam jih she. Nevarni so in posebno talentirani. Duporjevo Lilit 'mam na 16 tau (opposing evil). Mnda ti ta Fortuna da posebno norost in najdesh stik z child inside ali true mindwill. Ne kregash se. Ne jezish. A sem z Jansho nogomet? Nekaj bolj pikantnega z Heleno Blagne, pa zdej ne pijem P.S. Unukalhai Unuk-al-Hay mu se reche, 'meli smo to zvezdo tudi na tem forumu. A je Mitja kar obdrzhal data-bejs?

Devica je ogromno ascendentalno ozvezdje, kar pomeni da jo lahko imamo na iztoku (Oven ni nikoli na iztoku ob tem obdoblju). Ishtaar je shla spodaj (ta prava 6ta hisha, pod HORIZONTOM) po Tamuz-a. Virgo je eno najboljshih (poleg Cetus, Rib, Orion, ...) ozvezdij. Devica je nekaj kot 6krat vechja od majhnega Ovna, ali zelo majhnega dela Scorpius-a na ekliptiki. Samo Ophiucus kot zodiakalno ozvezdje je konkurenca (sicer to mal' napamet).

Nekaj kentavrjev se mudi v _ozvezdju_ Strelca. Che ischchesh denimo Nessus, najdesh tudi Chiron in Asbolus. Chiron ni najvechji kentavr. Zachni z Chariklo. Nahaja se v Crater (Graal) ozvezdju. En kentavr je she vechji kot Chariklo, pa za enkrat 'mash informacijo;) Pa she izogni se, denimo Liz Greene astro.com in podobno. To ni Chiron;) Chiron je pravzaprav KOMETA. Ledeni, krijonichki, asexualni miniguru;)

Ni tako enostavno. Pluton ne gre v Ribe nikoli, tem mnj v Ovna. Pluton gre chez Cetus v Taurus. Seveda tudi Uran gre v Cetus itn. Ni v Ribah, seveda.

Enkrat sem kar dva dni porabil da bi tremu diskreiral z O5 tehniko. Poslovnezh je 'mel hude probleme, pa smo jih dojeli. Shlo se za TRIVIJALNO zadevo. Enega dne je muti samo nekaj mogoche bolj ostro povedala in obchutljiv (tonal) fanta je reagiral z ... tremo. Celo "shamanski exorcizem" za tako MEJHNO zadevo! Majhno? Prav te majhne zadeve so najbolj hude in se lahko skrijo! O5 bo spet v Ljubljani upam kmalu SMS + 385 91 108 108 4 P.S. Dva dni zhe. Pa je psihologija brez rezultata delala na tem 12 let!!! Nekaj kot ginekologija in hude bolezni katere z astrologijo (ta pravo) in nekaj yoga-e (tudi O5) lahko zdiskreiramo... news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5

Jansha je bil kar priden fant, nekaj bolj aktiven. Nobeden ne bi pogruntal kaj bo nastalo od njega! Zdi se mi, skoraj je nemogoche da ga tudi Marsa ni poznala v shtudentske dneve. Torej cheprav 19 sco (SERPENS CAVDA, Alpha Serpentis) je "samo zvezda" (?), hudich (los voladeros) resnichno obstaja in ti prav zdaj sugerira. Exorcizm? O5 ali pa pater Stanislav obchasih Pri Pauli.

Nekaj 'mam na taljanshchini. Primorci? Xe anca tempo che se vasse vivi, urca! Torej po 5-imi dnevi v Scorpius (Antares, moj sluchaj 28 Nov 1957), Sonce gre v shiroki Ophiucus. Torej konjunkcija Ixion, (Cruithne), Quaoar, Pluton, 2002 MS4 in vse te lepe rechi... rom: Claudio Solis (quaoar@phenix.rootshell.be) Subject: Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian Newsgroups: alt.astrology.marketplace, alt.astrology Date: 2003-10-06 03:36:30 PST Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian © Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August a long time ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation. Chinese Ascendants - I Ching and Due East © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org I thought the Sun is in Capricorn at the time of winter solstice? It was in 700 B.C.! Things change. Around 1864, the newagers thought precession has entered Aquarius. Now nobody seems too shure of that. The Sun will glide towards the first _approved_ aquarian star at best within the next couple of hundreds of years of so. Depending on this or that convention. This or that calculus. This or that program. From my work in progress "I Ching Aspectarian", I Ching for the astrologer. news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 I Ching has a very clear way to put it: the Sun is either ABOVE the HORIZON (note we avoid using the word "ascendant") in :::|:| or it's BELOW the HORIZON as in |:|::: (Obscure). The delineaton of diagram 35 clearly speaks of the rising sun, thus Progress, while the hidden (Khepra) Sun is described in diagram |:|::: 36 (Ming Yee). Extrazodiacal astrology uses DUE EAST for an ascendant, thus eliminating errors and doubts from one`s true mind. The rising sun is clearly positive :::|:| a symbol of progress. The Sun below the ascendant spawns out obscure energies |:|::: It is clear than the Sun in the 12th house is a progressive, illuminating (thus house of moksha or liberation from false ego) effect, while the Sun below the ascendant (such as in the 1st house) sends obscure and mysterious rays. The first house is one of the "last hour before the dawn" (thus "piscean" for all current purposes). = 12th or 1st? = Astrology for You http://puck.dhs.org A further study in extrazodiacal astrology and true ascendant © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org Years ago there was an article entitled "The House of the Rising Sun", dealing with the absurd notion that the rising Sun should be called names like "Dark Night of the Soul", "The Darkest Hour _BEFORE_ the Dawn", "piscean Sun" and the usual heap of "astrological" rubbish as amassed by (shall we call it) "new wage" in the last twenty years and more. We can rest assured that what goes under "astrological authorities" at this time, is but a sad mockery; "unjustly" despised by astronomers. The way the ascendant is defined today alows for one possible and also obvious misinterpretation of the above error. If the Sun rises apart from due East, it might actually rise in another house. Should not the first house be the last hour before dawn? Even this simple statement requires quite some simple introduction. The astrological chart as it is (or was) today does not show Sunrise the way it should )as a matter of fact it shows _nothing_ the way it should). One has to observe and see for himself why. Astrologers moreover use a spot called M.C. that has nothing to do with the meridian as observed by the ancients (and level headed gentlemen, as well). The zenithing object is zenithing at the meridian, says logic, and ascendant is East or due East or proper compass East. That is of course far from astrology today. To know his true ascendant or even sunrise, the astrologer has to use an astronomical device and leave the chart wheel for other purposes (such as sunsign chatter). At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August a long tine ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation. As a matter of fact, to know his own Sun position (the writer is an Ophiucian), one has to check the skies and see. No "sidereal" or "vedic" or even "jyotish" trick will inform him of the simple truth: his natal Moon was in Cetus all of the time and at _this_ time he`s having a mercurial return in Sextans with Venus progressed. Surprises only begin with this single simple information: the Sun is in Scorpius constellation only FIVE (5) days in a year. Now how will you check it out? The majority of them "astrological authorities" don^t even dream their sunsign; imagine them having to calculate their own natal Moon's position! Namely, the calculation of the local degree, minute and natal constellation of the Moon is no joke at all! What about the ascendant? Mine is Monoceros (Unicorn) and yours surely isn't Aries, because it is simply not possible an ascendant at this time. It might be Hydra, since you're reading this (Hydra is a curious occult water-snake). Now with this short introduction, everything is possible. Let us add that we have successfully rectified the houses of many horoscopes, including severral astrological authorities, placing the planets in the opposite and appropriate houses and correcting a factor or two. This does not please them astrologers, since it means the end of their career built upon their own natal horoscopes absolutely devoid of any astrological aspect. Everybody can talk 12 signs and Chiron, and everybody does. The house of liberation from false mind is the house of the rising Sun. As a matter of fact, this house has been called the house of Moksha but it might not necessarely pertain to a "sign" such as Pisces. What is the liberation shown by Pisces? The binary fish bowl and twin souls of which one is the invisibly (Krishna is often shown as hidden, invisible, beaten) small true mind and the all powerful and idiotical false ego (exactly the ego of astrological monsters snapping at this simple gospel). One of the reasons articles like this are hard to find is that authorities don't want articles half like this. This article clearly says to any authority: You don't know your natal ascendant. You don't know your Moon's position. (Worse: there's no telling you'll ever know!) You probably don't know your natal Sun's position. Never heard of Pholus? Cheer up, you're only 20 years late. But with 15 books in print and your own ascendant, Moon and very probably even the Sun miscalculated by miles, the authority sholud receive a heart stroke. Splat. And she used Solar Fire all of the time. Mary, you got it all wrong, I told you and there was no need to close that board after all. Mary, Alan or Dane, they were just people. Alan had some talent (Sun Uranus aspect) but the rest? Did they have any aspects at all? So why bother? Splats will happen. What do I care about splats if I have my own chart calculated the proper way. Astronomically correct. Locality centered. Almost like a mayan chart. Almost like a chinese chart. As if an egyptian priest has made it (in fact, it has!). What do I care for other people and cookbooks and their own 12th houses when my adventurity has just begun? /1/ See my "August Fish" and "Sun in Ophiucus" articles. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org = Books by Klaudio Zic = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org I CHING ASPECTARIAN This book treats the I Ching trigrams as planets, affording for a vast interplay of modern astrology and ancient chinese wisdom. I Ching as an Astrological Manual in natal, as well as progressed (directed) and horary astrology aspects. Enhance your present I Ching experience, as well as astrological knowledge, producing comprehensive predictions for your clients! © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org I CHING AND THE 360 DEGREES A must for every I Ching student! I Ching is finally integrated within modern western astrology, degree by degree, moving line by moving line. Examples show the interplay of I Ching moving lines, the Sabian symbols and even such occult workings as Franz Bardon's system. A beginner's guide to I Ching Encoded Horoscopes is included with examples like the NYSE, U.S.A., Bill Gates, president Bush and Usama bin Liden. Many useful hints for the advanced astrologer! Assign an I Ching moving line to the degrees in your horoscope, as well as progressed positions of the planets. Stay compatible with the Sabian symbols and other systems like Franz Bardon's. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org I CHING TREE OF LIFE ||::|| Morgan la Fay vibrates in Yesod while Kevin the Bard abides in ||:|:: Hod. Place your dreams on the Tree of Life enjoying the austerely clear I Ching symbols. A comprehensive guide to I Ching Encoded Trees of Life. As already published in 1996 http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8 the I Ching Tree of Life is an original concept in use by enochian occultists and students of the Kabbalah. The centaur objects are like dark archangels connecting the planetary gods. The Tree of Life expands not only through I Ching diagrams, but also through new giant transneptunain discoveries and cisuranian centaurs and comets, dramatically enriching your kabbalistic experience. A new Tree is growing and it's in your Garden! © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org FUTURECHANGER This book and course will rattle you! What good is to know the future if you can't change it? And the news is you can! With O5. Learn how to CREATE EVENTS, instead of just divining them. The times when you went passively through life's transits is past! Never has such a simple method enabled man to master his own life, while changing the course of events to his own advantage. Once one knows one's future in details with perfect timing, one is in the positiong to CHANGE IT. Change the future to fit your PURPOSE. Don't accept a future you don't want. Have more futures than one! Play with the choices! Accept more missions! Use God's time to serve better and enjoy the multiplied feedback. TIME is not for losers. Compress time. Use time in the most eficacious way. Optimize the USE OF TIME ahead of an event. DISCREATE an event (perhaps a really "bad" transit) BEFORE it ever happens! "And my ugly futurities were my own invention!" as the song says. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org CENTAURS AND TRANSNEPTUNIANS From the author of the early delineations of Quaoar, Varuna and Ixion. we delineated the centaur and transneptunian objects before they were named! Transneptunian astrology has made it's giant steps since 1992, while heading towards it's supremacy in determining the future of the planet. Discover what the largest asteroid, Quaoar, has to say about your love life, finantial affairs or majikal karma. Early, premier and unique delineations of the major giant transneptunian objects Quaoar (2002 TX300, 2002 AW197), Ixion, Varuna, Chaos and others (such as Varuna sized 2003 QW90). Delineations of the centaurs such as immortality centaur 1994 TA, Nessus, Pholus, Asbolus (the magus), Chariklo, Hylonome, Thereus, 2003 CO1, Cyllarus, Chiron and others. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org EXTRAZODIACAL ASTROLOGY We probably reinvented EXTRAzodiacal astrology, remaining the only known source of this wonderful holistic science. Your planets are finally treated in the position they actually were at the moment of your birth, taking one major step forward from the standard vedic or sidereal aproximations. You'll have Sun in Ophiucus, Pluto in Coma Berenices, Moon in Cetus, Venus in Hydra, Mercury in Sextans and your progressions will never be the same, since we're using the extrazodiacal progressions in real astronomical format to predict events overlooked by other astrologies. Your planets have their right to be observed in the constellation they happened to be in! NASA JPL is in Pasadena, CA (not in China) and Pluto is presently in Ophiucus (and it can _never_ be in Aries or Pisces!) as Mercury is in Sextans and the Moon in Cetus. Stay fascinated with your TRUE NATAL PLANETARY POSITIONS! You might have Hydra ascending with Moon in Sextans or Sun conjunct Mercury in Ophiucus and you never knew it! A complete revision of the astrological system from resurfaced egyptian and mayan astrology to NASA borne transneptunians and centaurs. Give your planets the right to be where they really are! © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

Search Result 1 From: Claudio Solis (quaoar@phenix.rootshell.be) Subject: Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian View: Complete Thread (2 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: alt.astrology.marketplace, alt.astrology Date: 2003-10-06 03:36:30 PST Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian © Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August a long time ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation. Chinese Ascendants - I Ching and Due East © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org I thought the Sun is in Capricorn at the time of winter solstice? It was in 700 B.C.! Things change. Around 1864, the newagers thought precession has entered Aquarius. Now nobody seems too shure of that. The Sun will glide towards the first _approved_ aquarian star at best within the next couple of hundreds of years of so. Depending on this or that convention. This or that calculus. This or that program. From my work in progress "I Ching Aspectarian", I Ching for the astrologer. news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 I Ching has a very clear way to put it: the Sun is either ABOVE the HORIZON (note we avoid using the word "ascendant") in :::|:| or it's BELOW the HORIZON as in |:|::: (Obscure). The delineaton of diagram 35 clearly speaks of the rising sun, thus Progress, while the hidden (Khepra) Sun is described in diagram |:|::: 36 (Ming Yee). Extrazodiacal astrology uses DUE EAST for an ascendant, thus eliminating errors and doubts from one`s true mind. The rising sun is clearly positive :::|:| a symbol of progress. The Sun below the ascendant spawns out obscure energies |:|::: It is clear than the Sun in the 12th house is a progressive, illuminating (thus house of moksha or liberation from false ego) effect, while the Sun below the ascendant (such as in the 1st house) sends obscure and mysterious rays. The first house is one of the "last hour before the dawn" (thus "piscean" for all current purposes). = 12th or 1st? = Astrology for You http://puck.dhs.org A further study in extrazodiacal astrology and true ascendant © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org Years ago there was an article entitled "The House of the Rising Sun", dealing with the absurd notion that the rising Sun should be called names like "Dark Night of the Soul", "The Darkest Hour _BEFORE_ the Dawn", "piscean Sun" and the usual heap of "astrological" rubbish as amassed by (shall we call it) "new wage" in the last twenty years and more. We can rest assured that what goes under "astrological authorities" at this time, is but a sad mockery; "unjustly" despised by astronomers. The way the ascendant is defined today alows for one possible and also obvious misinterpretation of the above error. If the Sun rises apart from due East, it might actually rise in another house. Should not the first house be the last hour before dawn? Even this simple statement requires quite some simple introduction. The astrological chart as it is (or was) today does not show Sunrise the way it should )as a matter of fact it shows _nothing_ the way it should). One has to observe and see for himself why. Astrologers moreover use a spot called M.C. that has nothing to do with the meridian as observed by the ancients (and level headed gentlemen, as well). The zenithing object is zenithing at the meridian, says logic, and ascendant is East or due East or proper compass East. That is of course far from astrology today. To know his true ascendant or even sunrise, the astrologer has to use an astronomical device and leave the chart wheel for other purposes (such as sunsign chatter). At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August a long tine ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation. As a matter of fact, to know his own Sun position (the writer is an Ophiucian), one has to check the skies and see. No "sidereal" or "vedic" or even "jyotish" trick will inform him of the simple truth: his natal Moon was in Cetus all of the time and at _this_ time he`s having a mercurial return in Sextans with Venus progressed. Surprises only begin with this single simple information: the Sun is in Scorpius constellation only FIVE (5) days in a year. Now how will you check it out? The majority of them "astrological authorities" don^t even dream their sunsign; imagine them having to calculate their own natal Moon's position! Namely, the calculation of the local degree, minute and natal constellation of the Moon is no joke at all! What about the ascendant? Mine is Monoceros (Unicorn) and yours surely isn't Aries, because it is simply not possible an ascendant at this time. It might be Hydra, since you're reading this (Hydra is a curious occult water-snake). Now with this short introduction, everything is possible. Let us add that we have successfully rectified the houses of many horoscopes, including severral astrological authorities, placing the planets in the opposite and appropriate houses and correcting a factor or two. This does not please them astrologers, since it means the end of their career built upon their own natal horoscopes absolutely devoid of any astrological aspect. Everybody can talk 12 signs and Chiron, and everybody does. The house of liberation from false mind is the house of the rising Sun. As a matter of fact, this house has been called the house of Moksha but it might not necessarely pertain to a "sign" such as Pisces. What is the liberation shown by Pisces? The binary fish bowl and twin souls of which one is the invisibly (Krishna is often shown as hidden, invisible, beaten) small true mind and the all powerful and idiotical false ego (exactly the ego of astrological monsters snapping at this simple gospel). One of the reasons articles like this are hard to find is that authorities don't want articles half like this. This article clearly says to any authority: You don't know your natal ascendant. You don't know your Moon's position. (Worse: there's no telling you'll ever know!) You probably don't know your natal Sun's position. Never heard of Pholus? Cheer up, you're only 20 years late. But with 15 books in print and your own ascendant, Moon and very probably even the Sun miscalculated by miles, the authority sholud receive a heart stroke. Splat. And she used Solar Fire all of the time. Mary, you got it all wrong, I told you and there was no need to close that board after all. Mary, Alan or Dane, they were just people. Alan had some talent (Sun Uranus aspect) but the rest? Did they have any aspects at all? So why bother? Splats will happen. What do I care about splats if I have my own chart calculated the proper way. Astronomically correct. Locality centered. Almost like a mayan chart. Almost like a chinese chart. As if an egyptian priest has made it (in fact, it has!). What do I care for other people and cookbooks and their own 12th houses when my adventurity has just begun? /1/ See my "August Fish" and "Sun in Ophiucus" articles. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org = Books by Klaudio Zic = http://puck.dhs.org © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org I CHING ASPECTARIAN This book treats the I Ching trigrams as planets, affording for a vast interplay of modern astrology and ancient chinese wisdom. I Ching as an Astrological Manual in natal, as well as progressed (directed) and horary astrology aspects. Enhance your present I Ching experience, as well as astrological knowledge, producing comprehensive predictions for your clients! © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org I CHING AND THE 360 DEGREES A must for every I Ching student! I Ching is finally integrated within modern western astrology, degree by degree, moving line by moving line. Examples show the interplay of I Ching moving lines, the Sabian symbols and even such occult workings as Franz Bardon's system. A beginner's guide to I Ching Encoded Horoscopes is included with examples like the NYSE, U.S.A., Bill Gates, president Bush and Usama bin Liden. Many useful hints for the advanced astrologer! Assign an I Ching moving line to the degrees in your horoscope, as well as progressed positions of the planets. Stay compatible with the Sabian symbols and other systems like Franz Bardon's. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org I CHING TREE OF LIFE ||::|| Morgan la Fay vibrates in Yesod while Kevin the Bard abides in ||:|:: Hod. Place your dreams on the Tree of Life enjoying the austerely clear I Ching symbols. A comprehensive guide to I Ching Encoded Trees of Life. As already published in 1996 http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8 the I Ching Tree of Life is an original concept in use by enochian occultists and students of the Kabbalah. The centaur objects are like dark archangels connecting the planetary gods. The Tree of Life expands not only through I Ching diagrams, but also through new giant transneptunain discoveries and cisuranian centaurs and comets, dramatically enriching your kabbalistic experience. A new Tree is growing and it's in your Garden! © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org FUTURECHANGER This book and course will rattle you! What good is to know the future if you can't change it? And the news is you can! With O5. Learn how to CREATE EVENTS, instead of just divining them. The times when you went passively through life's transits is past! Never has such a simple method enabled man to master his own life, while changing the course of events to his own advantage. Once one knows one's future in details with perfect timing, one is in the positiong to CHANGE IT. Change the future to fit your PURPOSE. Don't accept a future you don't want. Have more futures than one! Play with the choices! Accept more missions! Use God's time to serve better and enjoy the multiplied feedback. TIME is not for losers. Compress time. Use time in the most eficacious way. Optimize the USE OF TIME ahead of an event. DISCREATE an event (perhaps a really "bad" transit) BEFORE it ever happens! "And my ugly futurities were my own invention!" as the song says. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org CENTAURS AND TRANSNEPTUNIANS From the author of the early delineations of Quaoar, Varuna and Ixion. we delineated the centaur and transneptunian objects before they were named! Transneptunian astrology has made it's giant steps since 1992, while heading towards it's supremacy in determining the future of the planet. Discover what the largest asteroid, Quaoar, has to say about your love life, finantial affairs or majikal karma. Early, premier and unique delineations of the major giant transneptunian objects Quaoar (2002 TX300, 2002 AW197), Ixion, Varuna, Chaos and others (such as Varuna sized 2003 QW90). Delineations of the centaurs such as immortality centaur 1994 TA, Nessus, Pholus, Asbolus (the magus), Chariklo, Hylonome, Thereus, 2003 CO1, Cyllarus, Chiron and others. © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org EXTRAZODIACAL ASTROLOGY We probably reinvented EXTRAzodiacal astrology, remaining the only known source of this wonderful holistic science. Your planets are finally treated in the position they actually were at the moment of your birth, taking one major step forward from the standard vedic or sidereal aproximations. You'll have Sun in Ophiucus, Pluto in Coma Berenices, Moon in Cetus, Venus in Hydra, Mercury in Sextans and your progressions will never be the same, since we're using the extrazodiacal progressions in real astronomical format to predict events overlooked by other astrologies. Your planets have their right to be observed in the constellation they happened to be in! NASA JPL is in Pasadena, CA (not in China) and Pluto is presently in Ophiucus (and it can _never_ be in Aries or Pisces!) as Mercury is in Sextans and the Moon in Cetus. Stay fascinated with your TRUE NATAL PLANETARY POSITIONS! You might have Hydra ascending with Moon in Sextans or Sun conjunct Mercury in Ophiucus and you never knew it! A complete revision of the astrological system from resurfaced egyptian and mayan astrology to NASA borne transneptunians and centaurs. Give your planets the right to be where they really are! © 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

Neptun je mochnejshi od Sonca in blizhji Luni. Neptun deluje iz krunske "cakre" (tam ni cakre), Sonce je pa ta napachni (hudichev ego) v srchani cakri (YAM mantra;)... Neptun je charovnik kater magnetizira (vsishe, vsiha...anulira, vnichi, zachara, premaga) Sonce- Rabish malo kabalistike od Shimoun Zev ben Ha-Levi;))) saj tega bo na Chopovi??? Naslednje ti razlagam planetarno kabalistiko Alan Forda (Alan je Venera, samo lep;)))) Bodzraven! Pa vse najljubshe! Klaudio

Trije so pozicije, "Under Sunrays", itn, do Kazimi (Cazimi), torej lahko je vech al' mnj ozhgana. Venera je seveda vladar hishe, torej predstavlja hisho; denimo che je (ta pravi) Taurus I.C. (Nadir, North), potemtakem ozhgana Venera je denimo pozhar vrta (v vrtu), Kazimi (Cazimi) pa... saj veste...

gre se za to da se primejo dela, pridne so to punce in fanti in ko primer marsa ne porabi kuharce temvech sam sklepa, videm da pochasi sami sklepajo, saj za to se gre! bravo! pochutim se skoraj kot ta profesor... a vesh nobeden ga ne shteka, pa potem pravijo ta je bil ta prav...hahaha...

jansha je bil v zaporu, 12ta hisha,... pa je tudi nevaren za dezhelo,... kaj pa vi sklepate? lahko je demoniziran? a je sploh she aktuelen?

Che te zanimajo zvezde imash Vivian Robson (pa tudi Dupor). Nekaj bom o 300 kitajskih zvezd, pa ne she, komaj vadim fungswey kompas in kitajshchino. Sem pa tja so zvezde zorganizirane v 360 stopinjski sistem, potemtakem so one tudi duhovi (heads), sicer se ne gre samo za plin:) Na vprashanje ti lahko odgovori guru http://www.yogacentar.hr gre se namrech za standardne kitajske, egiptijanske, mayanske, perzijske zvezde (inicijatichne), Rohini (devi), itn, tudi jyotisha (vedik) astrologi vejo za vpliv (jaz se bolj z Orion-om, Corvus, itn. vkvarjam). Te zvezde konjukkcijo delajo z nekaterimi kometami in asteroidimi (Midas), ... Ne pa z planetami. Prevech so v stran (konchno sem nekaj povedal po slovenski;)))) Lepozdraverneitnubti

Najmochnejshe je ozvezdje (zvezda), planet (kentaur, ...) na meridijanu (, ... v zenitu) (tudi sem pa tja na M.C.-ju!), potem na iztoku (iztok, east-point), tudi na tropikalnem (ekliptika) ascendentu (gre se za nekaj kot angela varuha), najmochnejshi so res hudi kvadrati (z mejhnim orbisom), direkcije ko se trkata pomembne planete, kakshna stopinja (19 sco), komete, lunacije, kentavrji (paran, angularno). Vsekakor bolj kot natalne pozicije so pomembne direkcije! Claudio P.S. Marsa a te to spomne na .. SKUC ... Scheat ....?

Se pravi preden ali po Soncu che izhajajo. Neptun je premagal sonce (enuma elish). http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html (enuma elish, shumerian...) ::||:| je primeroma (I Ching 56) Venera v Lucifer poziciji. |:|::| je ochitno vesperine pozicija Venere. Pravzaprav je Venera Lucifer;)