Šri Krišna

[Pico Della Mirandola]

zdej sem pod vplivom vsemogočnega Krishne ki zaenkrat ne zahteva malikovanje svojega svetega lingama, a ti še zmer upaš da boš dobila iz lingama mal prasada od praseta..

 

Bemu Domy zdej k ne morš svinjine jest morš pa met svinjo za guruja..

 

dost žalostno

[domoljubka]

... Uživaj tud ti v svoji bleferski paščetini lepo naprej...

Slej ko prej pride dan, ko se boš soočil s svojimi posledicami nabijanja drugim.http://www.lunin.net/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png

[mgd]

..Ja sam veš kaj je Mgd problem...

Da si nekateri umišljajo, da ni drugega pravega guruja ...ampak, da je samo tisti pravi- v katerega sam zaupa pač zaradi tega ali onega vzgiba ali spoznanja.

In da se potem zaradi takšne anomalije strpnosti - začne nategovanje z blatenjem drugih, metanje polen drugim celo v samoprepričanju, da delujejo v korist vseh - po nekakšnem božjem navdihu...

Nesamoanalitično in neodgovorno si sebično dodelijo to pravico.

 

V resnici pa ne razpoznajo, da proti nekomu lobirajo, da gre samo za njihov lastni odnos dojemanja, ki niti približno ni podprt z resničnimi, realnimi dokazi, resničnim videnjem ...

S tem v bistvu ne razumejo kaj počnejo nekomu drugemu, ki ima svoj center drugje.

Ne dojamejo koliko v pomembnih segmentih posegajo v njegovo zaščito in delovanje.

 

Pri vsakem takšnem posredovanju bi se moralo paziti na to, da te vodi umirjenost, ravnovesje, modrost, resnica, pravičništvo, strpnost, empatija....

Bolje se ne vmešavat s prenašanjem govoric, če o njih nisi prepričan in zares dobrosrčno, iskreno naravnan...

Kadar pa je prisotna maščevalnost, sovražnost ali pa tračanje zaradi lastnega razrasta svojega -prav...so tu posledice...in bi bilo bolje, da se takrat človek umakne in se vzdrži nekega "višjega" komentiranja...

 

Se strinjam. Če ni strpnosti, ti je lahko takoj jasna anomalija vzgiba.

[Pico Della Mirandola]

... Uživaj tud ti v svoji bleferski paščetini lepo naprej...

Slej ko prej pride dan, ko se boš soočil s svojimi posledicami nabijanja drugim.http://www.lunin.net/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png

Krishna je do mene milosten, tut do tebe vidm.

[mgd]

Evo, z Brajraj sharan babo smo se zmenili za to nedeljo 17.1. ob 17h. Ker pa je od št. udeležencev odvisno kje bomo imeli, ali v Ljubljani ali Grosupljem, bo mesto znano šele v soboto zvečer oz. nedeljo zjutraj. Če je kdo iz tega foruma zainteresiran, da bi prišel, seveda srčno vabljen, naj mi to prosim sporoči na Osebno sporočilo, da mu napišem še detajle kje bo ko bo znano.

 

Do takrat še en video. Na 4.54 min začne razlagat glede ene posebne kvalitete te dobe prepirov (Kali yuga), glede pozitivnega videnja, glede jeze, pohlepa..., milosti Radharani in petja njenega svetega imena, potem nekaj časa poje in spet razloži moč svetega imena in spet poje. Vabljeni k ogledu od začetka do konca, ne bo vam žal.

 

 

Baba mi je sporočil, da to nedeljo žal ne bo mogel, ker mu je en drug pomemben sestank prišel vmes, bo pa mogoče naslednji vikend, mi še javi, jaz pa vam.

[mgd]

Pilot Nikson was flying his plane and was locating the defense facilities of German army, during World war. He was accompanied by his four colleagues, all from air-force. They entered German air-space and were hiding their plane in clouds. Nikson as pilot wanted clear view of the defense sites, hence took risk of lowering his plane. Suddenly a jolt shook him. His plane was hit. German army was firing at their plane and suddenly plane was in flames.

Mr. Nikson wrote in his biography, ‘I was a firm non-believer in God. I observed that my burning plane was loosing height rapidly and would soon crash. There was no chance of survival. I murmured, ‘If there is any God, save me.’

I went blank after that. I do not know what happened after that. I regained consciousness after a long time. When I recovered a bit, I was told that I remained unconscious for almost 2 months. When I inquired about my colleagues, I was told that somehow the burning plane re-entered the French border and fell with a loud thud. Nothing remained in the place. All were dead. Your pulse was quite slow but running. You were hence taken to Army hospital in Paris and doctors worked very hard to save you. When all were discussing in detail about the crash, I began to re-collect all the minute details of events. Then I recalled how I have murmured, ‘If there is any God, save me’. A shiver ran in my spine and from that day, I had firm faith in God and His existence.’

He continues to write, ‘After I was discharged I began going to church and began inquiring about God from various fathers (priests). I thought that since I know that God exists then I should find Him and talk to Him. I was not satisfied with the answers I got and eventually began reading many holy books. I was still not satisfied. My desire to meet God increased day by day. After all He saved me that other day and I should meet my savior. I was advised to visit India to learn further about God. I was informed that sages of ancient India had researched deeply into this topic. I resigned from the Royal Air Force, and came to India to research on God.’

The same pilot Nikson came to India. His complete name was Ronald Nikson and became known as Professor Nikson in the Lucknow University. He was acquainted with Dr. Gyanendra Nath Chakravarty (Vice-Chancellor) as they had met in England earlier and became good friends. Dr. Gyanendra appointed Professor Nikson in the English department of Lucknow University.

Sri Krishna says in Gita that I help those, who look for Me, sincerely.

Wife of Dr. Chakravarty , Srimati Manika Devi was a devotee of Sri Krishna. She taught and explained various Indian scriptures namely Srimad Bhagavad Gita, Upanishads, Vedant and Srimad Bhagavatam and eventually initiated him and re-named him as Sri Krishna-prem. The same Professor Nikson established a centre at Mirtola (about 14 miles from Almora in the state of Uttar Pardesh) under the name ‘Uttar Vrindavan’. It is said that he realized the Supreme Lord here and used to talk to the Lord. Thus Lord fulfilled his desire.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna_Prem

[Pico Della Mirandola]

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Hari-Krishna-ISKCON-movement-or-dogma-homophobic

[Pico Della Mirandola]

http://krishna.org/women-in-society-a-television-interview-with-srila-prabhupada/

 

https://sites.google.com/a/iskconmedia.com/docs/controversial/please-stop-misusing-srila-prabhupadas-quotes

[mgd]

Vsak, ki se preda Krišni je rešen vseh težav in dobi absolutno zadovoljstvo, ne glede na to kaj drugi počnejo.

[Pico Della Mirandola]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEX-WfnGL_o

 

[Pico Della Mirandola]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=demYdby12W8

[Pico Della Mirandola]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64FfZ_E3tBU

Pozorni bit na govor od 17 minute dalje ko popljuva komuniste.

[Pico Della Mirandola]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUEJNUvF8qU

[Pico Della Mirandola]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwIPt1VaFag

[mgd]

To err is human. To err is inevitable for all, being not perfect. Still, no one wants to remain imperfect. There is an element within all that is animate that tends towards perfection. If it were not so, we would feel no want at all. Our tendency towards perfection is certainly very weak and limited; otherwise we could attain the goal at once. Our limited capacity and tendency for perfection makes room for the guide or guru.

The imperfect is not so if it is not in need of help, and that also from beyond itself. The perfect is not perfect if he cannot assert himself or help others, and that too, of his own accord. So the guidance to perfection or Absolute truth is necessarily a function of the Absolute himself, and the divine agent through whom this function manifests is sri guru or the divine guide.

[mgd]

Čim si želiš neki druzga od Krišne, si vznemirjen. Čim si v kontaktu z Njim si pomirjen in zadovoljen.

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https://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/10-reasons-why-i-feel-the-hare-krishnas-are-a-cult/

[web bird]

Ah ... kdo ima prav in kdo ne, kdo je kaj rekel in zakaj, zakaj to in zakaj ono ...

 

"Med ljudmi, "ki preštevajo liste", duhovnega človeka ne boste nikoli srečali. ... Če želite postati bhakta, za to sploh ni potrebno, da veste, kje se je Krishna (prečrkovano:"Krišna", op. prev.) rodil, v kraju Mathurâ ali Vraja, kaj je počel in ali poznate natančen datum, ko je oznanil svoje modrosti iz Gite. Želel si je le, da začutite hrepenenje po čudovitih lekcijah o dolžnosti in ljubezni zapisanih v Giti. Vsi ostali podatki o avtorju so tukaj le intelektualcem za zabavo. Naj kar imajo tisto, kar želijo."

 

"V neki pripovedi so nevednega človeka prosili, naj naredi podobo Bogá Shive (prečrkovano: "Šive", op. prev.) in on je, po dnevih utrudljivih prizadevanj, ustvaril le podobo opice. Torej kadarkoli si skušamo predstavljati Bogá kot Tistega, ki je absolutno popoln, naletimo na nerešljiv problem, ker vse dokler smo navadni ljudje, tudi Njega ne moremo razumeti prav nič drugače, kot v podobi običajnega človeka."

 

Svami Vivekananda: Bhakti joga - Joga ljubezni in predanosti

[mgd]

Ah ... kdo ima prav in kdo ne, kdo je kaj rekel in zakaj, zakaj to in zakaj ono ...

 

"Med ljudmi, "ki preštevajo liste", duhovnega človeka ne boste nikoli srečali. ... Če želite postati bhakta, za to sploh ni potrebno, da veste, kje se je Krishna (prečrkovano:"Krišna", op. prev.) rodil, v kraju Mathurâ ali Vraja, kaj je počel in ali poznate natančen datum, ko je oznanil svoje modrosti iz Gite. Želel si je le, da začutite hrepenenje po čudovitih lekcijah o dolžnosti in ljubezni zapisanih v Giti. Vsi ostali podatki o avtorju so tukaj le intelektualcem za zabavo. Naj kar imajo tisto, kar želijo."

 

Šri Krišna sam je v Giti povedal kdo je in kako in zakaj se pojavi v tem svetu in da njegovo rojstvo in aktivnosti niso navadne in kako se ga lahko spozna in kako ima to vezo z našo dolžnostjo in ljubeznijo.

 

"V neki pripovedi so nevednega človeka prosili, naj naredi podobo Bogá Shive (prečrkovano: "Šive", op. prev.) in on je, po dnevih utrudljivih prizadevanj, ustvaril le podobo opice. Torej kadarkoli si skušamo predstavljati Bogá kot Tistega, ki je absolutno popoln, naletimo na nerešljiv problem, ker vse dokler smo navadni ljudje, tudi Njega ne moremo razumeti prav nič drugače, kot v podobi običajnega človeka."

 

Svami Vivekananda: Bhakti joga - Joga ljubezni in predanosti

 

Prvo kot prvo Šiva ni Bog, je najdražji služabnik Boga, Krišne (lahko ga vprašaš) in res je to da si človek ne more predstavljati Boga, bodisi kot absolutno popolnega ali karkoli drugega in delati njegovih podob, bodisi iz materialnih elementov ali v umu, ker je onkraj vseh njegovih predstav. Njegovo obliko, lastnosti, spremljevalce, aktivnosti lahko spoznaš samo po Njegovi milosti ko si ga pripravljen služit ko si o Njem milostno slišal od Njega ali tistega, ki ga pozna.

[web bird]

Je že v redu, da ima vsak svoje mnenje oziroma spoznanja oziroma "oči" oziroma svojo pot in svojo stopnjo razvoja, kjer se trenutno nahaja.

Imej svoj prav, svojo pot, svoja spoznanja, svoja prepričanja in svojo "zadnjo resnico", (lepo, če si vse to sam izkustveno spoznal, kot so svoje spoznali starodavni indijski modreci in vse to zapisali v Vedah), vsemu temu nič ne nasprotujem in to tudi ni bil namen,a se razlikujeva. Imam rajši svoje izkušnje, razumevanje in spoznanja, skratka: mango mi je ljubši.

 

"Shanthi, Shanthi."

[mgd]

Je že v redu, da ima vsak svoje mnenje oziroma spoznanja oziroma "oči" oziroma svojo pot in svojo stopnjo razvoja, kjer se trenutno nahaja.

Imej svoj prav, svojo pot, svoja spoznanja, svoja prepričanja in svojo "zadnjo resnico", (lepo, če si vse to sam izkustveno spoznal, kot so svoje spoznali starodavni indijski modreci in vse to zapisali v Vedah), vsemu temu nič ne nasprotujem in to tudi ni bil namen,a se razlikujeva. Imam rajši svoje izkušnje, razumevanje in spoznanja, skratka: mango mi je ljubši.

 

"Shanthi, Shanthi."

 

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. Aha, hvala. Glede na tvojo analogijo o "mangu", če se ne motim, naj bi bil "mango" okušanje opravljanja dolžnosti in ljubezni opisanih v Bhagavad Giti. Poleg tega praviš, da podatki o avtorju, Šri Krišni, niso pomembni in da niso potrebni, da bi nekdo lahko bil bhakta. V zvezi s tem me zanima naslednje :

 

1. Si ti prebral celo Bhagavad Gito?

 

2. Zakaj naj bi avtor Šri Krišna potem govoril o sebi v Bhagavad Giti, zakaj naj bi izgubljal čas za zabavo intelektualcem (glede na tvojo analogijo), saj Arjuna ga je spraševal o svoji dolžnosti?

 

3. Komu bhakta (častilec, predani) naj bi npr. ti bil, če naj podatki o avtorju ne bi bili pomembni?

 

4. Opravljanje tvoje dolžnosti in ljubezni ("mango") ni vezano na avtorja, Šri Krišno? Kaj po tvoje je potem tvoja dolžnost in ljubezen glede na Bhagavad Gito?

 

5. Si v Bhagavad Giti v 11. poglavju prebral v kakšnem odnosu sta Bhagavan Šri Krišna in g. Šiva?

 

Upam, da me ne boš napotil na branje knjige Vivekanande, ker mene zanimajo, glede na to da si jih omenil, tvoje izkušnje "manga" in če ti ni za tipkat, se lahko dobiva tudi v živo in mi v živo poveš.

[Pico Della Mirandola]

Recimo!

 

Arjuna said

"My dear Lord Krishna, I see assembled together in your body all the demigods and various other living entities. I see Brahma sitting on the lotus flower as well as Lord Shiva and many sages and divine serpents."

 

 

al pa

 

You(Krishna) are the supreme primal objective, you are the best in all universes, you are inexhaustible and You are the oldest, you are the manteiner of religion the eternal Personality of Godhead

 

sploh pa

 

All the demigods are surrendering and entering into You, They are much afraid and with folded hands they are singing the vedic hymns

 

pa taksativno

 

The different manifestations of Lord Shiva, the Adityas, the Vasus, the Saadhyas, the Vishvadevas, the two ashvins, the maruts ( ni isto kot Suzuki Maruti opomba Pica della Mirandole), the forefathers, and the gandarvas, The yakshas, Asuras, and all perfected demigods are beholding You in wonder..

 

 

Pa še je tega, sam me že prsti bolijo..