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From: Claudio Solis (quaoar@phenix.rootshell.be)

Subject: Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian

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Newsgroups: alt.astrology.marketplace, alt.astrology

Date: 2003-10-06 03:36:30 PST

 

 

Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian © Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org

 

At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while

roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will

be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August

a long time ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology

is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take

for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands

of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation.

Chinese Ascendants - I Ching and Due East

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

 

I thought the Sun is in Capricorn at the time of winter solstice?

It was in 700 B.C.! Things change. Around 1864, the newagers thought

precession has entered Aquarius. Now nobody seems too shure of that.

The Sun will glide towards the first _approved_ aquarian star at best

within the next couple of hundreds of years of so. Depending on this

or that convention. This or that calculus. This or that program.

 

From my work in progress "I Ching Aspectarian", I Ching for the

astrologer. news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5

 

I Ching has a very clear way to put it: the Sun is either ABOVE

the HORIZON (note we avoid using the word "ascendant") in :::|:|

or it's BELOW the HORIZON as in |:|::: (Obscure). The delineaton

of diagram 35 clearly speaks of the rising sun, thus Progress,

while the hidden (Khepra) Sun is described in diagram |:|::: 36

(Ming Yee). Extrazodiacal astrology uses DUE EAST for an ascendant,

thus eliminating errors and doubts from one`s true mind.

 

The rising sun is clearly positive :::|:| a symbol of progress.

The Sun below the ascendant spawns out obscure energies |:|:::

 

It is clear than the Sun in the 12th house is a progressive,

illuminating (thus house of moksha or liberation from false ego)

effect, while the Sun below the ascendant (such as in the 1st

house) sends obscure and mysterious rays. The first house is

one of the "last hour before the dawn" (thus "piscean" for all

current purposes).

 

= 12th or 1st? = Astrology for You http://puck.dhs.org

A further study in extrazodiacal astrology and true ascendant

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

 

Years ago there was an article entitled "The House of the Rising Sun",

dealing with the absurd notion that the rising Sun should be called

names like "Dark Night of the Soul", "The Darkest Hour _BEFORE_ the

Dawn", "piscean Sun" and the usual heap of "astrological" rubbish as

amassed by (shall we call it) "new wage" in the last twenty years and

more. We can rest assured that what goes under "astrological authorities"

at this time, is but a sad mockery; "unjustly" despised by astronomers.

 

The way the ascendant is defined today alows for one possible and also

obvious misinterpretation of the above error. If the Sun rises apart

from due East, it might actually rise in another house. Should not the

first house be the last hour before dawn? Even this simple statement

requires quite some simple introduction.

 

The astrological chart as it is (or was) today does not show Sunrise

the way it should )as a matter of fact it shows _nothing_ the way it

should). One has to observe and see for himself why. Astrologers

moreover use a spot called M.C. that has nothing to do with the

meridian as observed by the ancients (and level headed gentlemen,

as well). The zenithing object is zenithing at the meridian, says

logic, and ascendant is East or due East or proper compass East.

 

That is of course far from astrology today. To know his true ascendant

or even sunrise, the astrologer has to use an astronomical device and

leave the chart wheel for other purposes (such as sunsign chatter).

 

At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while

roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will

be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August

a long tine ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology

is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take

for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands

of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation.

 

As a matter of fact, to know his own Sun position (the writer is an

Ophiucian), one has to check the skies and see. No "sidereal" or

"vedic" or even "jyotish" trick will inform him of the simple truth:

his natal Moon was in Cetus all of the time and at _this_ time he`s

having a mercurial return in Sextans with Venus progressed. Surprises

only begin with this single simple information: the Sun is in Scorpius

constellation only FIVE (5) days in a year. Now how will you check it

out? The majority of them "astrological authorities" don^t even dream

their sunsign; imagine them having to calculate their own natal Moon's

position! Namely, the calculation of the local degree, minute and natal

constellation of the Moon is no joke at all! What about the ascendant?

Mine is Monoceros (Unicorn) and yours surely isn't Aries, because it is

simply not possible an ascendant at this time. It might be Hydra, since

you're reading this (Hydra is a curious occult water-snake). Now with

this short introduction, everything is possible. Let us add that we

have successfully rectified the houses of many horoscopes, including

severral astrological authorities, placing the planets in the opposite

and appropriate houses and correcting a factor or two. This does not

please them astrologers, since it means the end of their career built

upon their own natal horoscopes absolutely devoid of any astrological

aspect. Everybody can talk 12 signs and Chiron, and everybody does.

 

The house of liberation from false mind is the house of the rising Sun.

As a matter of fact, this house has been called the house of Moksha but

it might not necessarely pertain to a "sign" such as Pisces. What is the

liberation shown by Pisces? The binary fish bowl and twin souls of which

one is the invisibly (Krishna is often shown as hidden, invisible, beaten)

small true mind and the all powerful and idiotical false ego (exactly the

ego of astrological monsters snapping at this simple gospel). One of the

reasons articles like this are hard to find is that authorities don't

want articles half like this. This article clearly says to any authority:

 

You don't know your natal ascendant.

You don't know your Moon's position.

(Worse: there's no telling you'll ever know!)

You probably don't know your natal Sun's position.

 

Never heard of Pholus? Cheer up, you're only 20 years late. But with 15

books in print and your own ascendant, Moon and very probably even the

Sun miscalculated by miles, the authority sholud receive a heart stroke.

Splat. And she used Solar Fire all of the time. Mary, you got it all

wrong, I told you and there was no need to close that board after all.

 

Mary, Alan or Dane, they were just people. Alan had some talent (Sun

Uranus aspect) but the rest? Did they have any aspects at all? So why

bother? Splats will happen. What do I care about splats if I have my

own chart calculated the proper way. Astronomically correct. Locality

centered. Almost like a mayan chart. Almost like a chinese chart. As

if an egyptian priest has made it (in fact, it has!).

 

What do I care for other people and cookbooks and their own 12th

houses when my adventurity has just begun?

 

/1/ See my "August Fish" and "Sun in Ophiucus" articles.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

 

= Books by Klaudio Zic = http://puck.dhs.org

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

I CHING ASPECTARIAN

 

This book treats the I Ching trigrams as planets, affording for

a vast interplay of modern astrology and ancient chinese wisdom.

 

I Ching as an Astrological Manual in natal, as well as progressed

(directed) and horary astrology aspects.

 

Enhance your present I Ching experience, as well as astrological

knowledge, producing comprehensive predictions for your clients!

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

I CHING AND THE 360 DEGREES

 

A must for every I Ching student! I Ching is finally integrated

within modern western astrology, degree by degree, moving line

by moving line. Examples show the interplay of I Ching moving

lines, the Sabian symbols and even such occult workings as Franz

Bardon's system. A beginner's guide to I Ching Encoded Horoscopes

is included with examples like the NYSE, U.S.A., Bill Gates, president

Bush and Usama bin Liden. Many useful hints for the advanced astrologer!

 

Assign an I Ching moving line to the degrees in your horoscope,

as well as progressed positions of the planets. Stay compatible

with the Sabian symbols and other systems like Franz Bardon's.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

I CHING TREE OF LIFE

 

||::|| Morgan la Fay vibrates in Yesod while Kevin the Bard

abides in ||:|:: Hod. Place your dreams on the Tree of Life

enjoying the austerely clear I Ching symbols. A comprehensive

guide to I Ching Encoded Trees of Life.

 

As already published in 1996 http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8 the

I Ching Tree of Life is an original concept in use by enochian

occultists and students of the Kabbalah. The centaur objects

are like dark archangels connecting the planetary gods. The

Tree of Life expands not only through I Ching diagrams, but

also through new giant transneptunain discoveries and cisuranian

centaurs and comets, dramatically enriching your kabbalistic

experience. A new Tree is growing and it's in your Garden!

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

FUTURECHANGER

 

This book and course will rattle you! What good is to know the

future if you can't change it? And the news is you can! With O5.

 

Learn how to CREATE EVENTS, instead of just divining them. The

times when you went passively through life's transits is past!

 

Never has such a simple method enabled man to master his own

life, while changing the course of events to his own advantage.

 

Once one knows one's future in details with perfect timing, one

is in the positiong to CHANGE IT. Change the future to fit your

PURPOSE. Don't accept a future you don't want. Have more futures

than one! Play with the choices! Accept more missions! Use God's

time to serve better and enjoy the multiplied feedback. TIME is

not for losers. Compress time. Use time in the most eficacious

way. Optimize the USE OF TIME ahead of an event. DISCREATE an

event (perhaps a really "bad" transit) BEFORE it ever happens!

"And my ugly futurities were my own invention!" as the song says.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

CENTAURS AND TRANSNEPTUNIANS

 

From the author of the early delineations of Quaoar, Varuna and

Ixion. we delineated the centaur and transneptunian objects before

they were named! Transneptunian astrology has made it's giant steps

since 1992, while heading towards it's supremacy in determining the

future of the planet. Discover what the largest asteroid, Quaoar,

has to say about your love life, finantial affairs or majikal karma.

 

Early, premier and unique delineations of the major giant

transneptunian objects Quaoar (2002 TX300, 2002 AW197), Ixion,

Varuna, Chaos and others (such as Varuna sized 2003 QW90).

 

Delineations of the centaurs such as immortality centaur

1994 TA, Nessus, Pholus, Asbolus (the magus), Chariklo,

Hylonome, Thereus, 2003 CO1, Cyllarus, Chiron and others.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

EXTRAZODIACAL ASTROLOGY

 

We probably reinvented EXTRAzodiacal astrology, remaining the only

known source of this wonderful holistic science. Your planets are

finally treated in the position they actually were at the moment

of your birth, taking one major step forward from the standard vedic

or sidereal aproximations. You'll have Sun in Ophiucus, Pluto in

Coma Berenices, Moon in Cetus, Venus in Hydra, Mercury in Sextans

and your progressions will never be the same, since we're using

the extrazodiacal progressions in real astronomical format to

predict events overlooked by other astrologies.

 

Your planets have their right to be observed in the constellation

they happened to be in! NASA JPL is in Pasadena, CA (not in China)

and Pluto is presently in Ophiucus (and it can _never_ be in Aries

or Pisces!) as Mercury is in Sextans and the Moon in Cetus.

 

Stay fascinated with your TRUE NATAL PLANETARY POSITIONS! You

might have Hydra ascending with Moon in Sextans or Sun conjunct

Mercury in Ophiucus and you never knew it!

 

A complete revision of the astrological system from resurfaced

egyptian and mayan astrology to NASA borne transneptunians and

centaurs.

 

Give your planets the right to be where they really are!

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

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Deli na socialnih omrežjih

Nekaj 'mam na taljanshchini. Primorci? Xe anca tempo che se vasse vivi, urca!

 

Torej po 5-imi dnevi v Scorpius (Antares, moj sluchaj 28 Nov 1957), Sonce gre v shiroki Ophiucus. Torej konjunkcija Ixion, (Cruithne), Quaoar, Pluton, 2002 MS4 in vse te lepe rechi...

 

rom: Claudio Solis (quaoar@phenix.rootshell.be)

Subject: Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian

Newsgroups: alt.astrology.marketplace, alt.astrology

Date: 2003-10-06 03:36:30 PST

 

 

Happy Xmas, Mr. Ophiucian © Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org

 

At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while

roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will

be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August

a long time ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology

is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take

for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands

of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation.

Chinese Ascendants - I Ching and Due East

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

 

I thought the Sun is in Capricorn at the time of winter solstice?

It was in 700 B.C.! Things change. Around 1864, the newagers thought

precession has entered Aquarius. Now nobody seems too shure of that.

The Sun will glide towards the first _approved_ aquarian star at best

within the next couple of hundreds of years of so. Depending on this

or that convention. This or that calculus. This or that program.

 

From my work in progress "I Ching Aspectarian", I Ching for the

astrologer. news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5

 

I Ching has a very clear way to put it: the Sun is either ABOVE

the HORIZON (note we avoid using the word "ascendant") in :::|:|

or it's BELOW the HORIZON as in |:|::: (Obscure). The delineaton

of diagram 35 clearly speaks of the rising sun, thus Progress,

while the hidden (Khepra) Sun is described in diagram |:|::: 36

(Ming Yee). Extrazodiacal astrology uses DUE EAST for an ascendant,

thus eliminating errors and doubts from one`s true mind.

 

The rising sun is clearly positive :::|:| a symbol of progress.

The Sun below the ascendant spawns out obscure energies |:|:::

 

It is clear than the Sun in the 12th house is a progressive,

illuminating (thus house of moksha or liberation from false ego)

effect, while the Sun below the ascendant (such as in the 1st

house) sends obscure and mysterious rays. The first house is

one of the "last hour before the dawn" (thus "piscean" for all

current purposes).

 

= 12th or 1st? = Astrology for You http://puck.dhs.org

A further study in extrazodiacal astrology and true ascendant

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

 

Years ago there was an article entitled "The House of the Rising Sun",

dealing with the absurd notion that the rising Sun should be called

names like "Dark Night of the Soul", "The Darkest Hour _BEFORE_ the

Dawn", "piscean Sun" and the usual heap of "astrological" rubbish as

amassed by (shall we call it) "new wage" in the last twenty years and

more. We can rest assured that what goes under "astrological authorities"

at this time, is but a sad mockery; "unjustly" despised by astronomers.

 

The way the ascendant is defined today alows for one possible and also

obvious misinterpretation of the above error. If the Sun rises apart

from due East, it might actually rise in another house. Should not the

first house be the last hour before dawn? Even this simple statement

requires quite some simple introduction.

 

The astrological chart as it is (or was) today does not show Sunrise

the way it should )as a matter of fact it shows _nothing_ the way it

should). One has to observe and see for himself why. Astrologers

moreover use a spot called M.C. that has nothing to do with the

meridian as observed by the ancients (and level headed gentlemen,

as well). The zenithing object is zenithing at the meridian, says

logic, and ascendant is East or due East or proper compass East.

 

That is of course far from astrology today. To know his true ascendant

or even sunrise, the astrologer has to use an astronomical device and

leave the chart wheel for other purposes (such as sunsign chatter).

 

At Xmas time and winter solstice, the Sun is in Sagittarius, while

roughly in a century from now it'll be in Ophiucus. Ophiucians will

be born at Xmas time. This is like pisceans being born in August

a long tine ago. /1/ This simple truth unknown to tropical astrology

is due to precession. The present chart wheel that mice and men take

for granted is but a fragment of an equinox-based measuring thousands

of years ago when precession entered the Lamb constellation.

 

As a matter of fact, to know his own Sun position (the writer is an

Ophiucian), one has to check the skies and see. No "sidereal" or

"vedic" or even "jyotish" trick will inform him of the simple truth:

his natal Moon was in Cetus all of the time and at _this_ time he`s

having a mercurial return in Sextans with Venus progressed. Surprises

only begin with this single simple information: the Sun is in Scorpius

constellation only FIVE (5) days in a year. Now how will you check it

out? The majority of them "astrological authorities" don^t even dream

their sunsign; imagine them having to calculate their own natal Moon's

position! Namely, the calculation of the local degree, minute and natal

constellation of the Moon is no joke at all! What about the ascendant?

Mine is Monoceros (Unicorn) and yours surely isn't Aries, because it is

simply not possible an ascendant at this time. It might be Hydra, since

you're reading this (Hydra is a curious occult water-snake). Now with

this short introduction, everything is possible. Let us add that we

have successfully rectified the houses of many horoscopes, including

severral astrological authorities, placing the planets in the opposite

and appropriate houses and correcting a factor or two. This does not

please them astrologers, since it means the end of their career built

upon their own natal horoscopes absolutely devoid of any astrological

aspect. Everybody can talk 12 signs and Chiron, and everybody does.

 

The house of liberation from false mind is the house of the rising Sun.

As a matter of fact, this house has been called the house of Moksha but

it might not necessarely pertain to a "sign" such as Pisces. What is the

liberation shown by Pisces? The binary fish bowl and twin souls of which

one is the invisibly (Krishna is often shown as hidden, invisible, beaten)

small true mind and the all powerful and idiotical false ego (exactly the

ego of astrological monsters snapping at this simple gospel). One of the

reasons articles like this are hard to find is that authorities don't

want articles half like this. This article clearly says to any authority:

 

You don't know your natal ascendant.

You don't know your Moon's position.

(Worse: there's no telling you'll ever know!)

You probably don't know your natal Sun's position.

 

Never heard of Pholus? Cheer up, you're only 20 years late. But with 15

books in print and your own ascendant, Moon and very probably even the

Sun miscalculated by miles, the authority sholud receive a heart stroke.

Splat. And she used Solar Fire all of the time. Mary, you got it all

wrong, I told you and there was no need to close that board after all.

 

Mary, Alan or Dane, they were just people. Alan had some talent (Sun

Uranus aspect) but the rest? Did they have any aspects at all? So why

bother? Splats will happen. What do I care about splats if I have my

own chart calculated the proper way. Astronomically correct. Locality

centered. Almost like a mayan chart. Almost like a chinese chart. As

if an egyptian priest has made it (in fact, it has!).

 

What do I care for other people and cookbooks and their own 12th

houses when my adventurity has just begun?

 

/1/ See my "August Fish" and "Sun in Ophiucus" articles.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

 

= Books by Klaudio Zic = http://puck.dhs.org

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

I CHING ASPECTARIAN

 

This book treats the I Ching trigrams as planets, affording for

a vast interplay of modern astrology and ancient chinese wisdom.

 

I Ching as an Astrological Manual in natal, as well as progressed

(directed) and horary astrology aspects.

 

Enhance your present I Ching experience, as well as astrological

knowledge, producing comprehensive predictions for your clients!

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

I CHING AND THE 360 DEGREES

 

A must for every I Ching student! I Ching is finally integrated

within modern western astrology, degree by degree, moving line

by moving line. Examples show the interplay of I Ching moving

lines, the Sabian symbols and even such occult workings as Franz

Bardon's system. A beginner's guide to I Ching Encoded Horoscopes

is included with examples like the NYSE, U.S.A., Bill Gates, president

Bush and Usama bin Liden. Many useful hints for the advanced astrologer!

 

Assign an I Ching moving line to the degrees in your horoscope,

as well as progressed positions of the planets. Stay compatible

with the Sabian symbols and other systems like Franz Bardon's.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

I CHING TREE OF LIFE

 

||::|| Morgan la Fay vibrates in Yesod while Kevin the Bard

abides in ||:|:: Hod. Place your dreams on the Tree of Life

enjoying the austerely clear I Ching symbols. A comprehensive

guide to I Ching Encoded Trees of Life.

 

As already published in 1996 http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8 the

I Ching Tree of Life is an original concept in use by enochian

occultists and students of the Kabbalah. The centaur objects

are like dark archangels connecting the planetary gods. The

Tree of Life expands not only through I Ching diagrams, but

also through new giant transneptunain discoveries and cisuranian

centaurs and comets, dramatically enriching your kabbalistic

experience. A new Tree is growing and it's in your Garden!

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

FUTURECHANGER

 

This book and course will rattle you! What good is to know the

future if you can't change it? And the news is you can! With O5.

 

Learn how to CREATE EVENTS, instead of just divining them. The

times when you went passively through life's transits is past!

 

Never has such a simple method enabled man to master his own

life, while changing the course of events to his own advantage.

 

Once one knows one's future in details with perfect timing, one

is in the positiong to CHANGE IT. Change the future to fit your

PURPOSE. Don't accept a future you don't want. Have more futures

than one! Play with the choices! Accept more missions! Use God's

time to serve better and enjoy the multiplied feedback. TIME is

not for losers. Compress time. Use time in the most eficacious

way. Optimize the USE OF TIME ahead of an event. DISCREATE an

event (perhaps a really "bad" transit) BEFORE it ever happens!

"And my ugly futurities were my own invention!" as the song says.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

CENTAURS AND TRANSNEPTUNIANS

 

From the author of the early delineations of Quaoar, Varuna and

Ixion. we delineated the centaur and transneptunian objects before

they were named! Transneptunian astrology has made it's giant steps

since 1992, while heading towards it's supremacy in determining the

future of the planet. Discover what the largest asteroid, Quaoar,

has to say about your love life, finantial affairs or majikal karma.

 

Early, premier and unique delineations of the major giant

transneptunian objects Quaoar (2002 TX300, 2002 AW197), Ixion,

Varuna, Chaos and others (such as Varuna sized 2003 QW90).

 

Delineations of the centaurs such as immortality centaur

1994 TA, Nessus, Pholus, Asbolus (the magus), Chariklo,

Hylonome, Thereus, 2003 CO1, Cyllarus, Chiron and others.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

 

EXTRAZODIACAL ASTROLOGY

 

We probably reinvented EXTRAzodiacal astrology, remaining the only

known source of this wonderful holistic science. Your planets are

finally treated in the position they actually were at the moment

of your birth, taking one major step forward from the standard vedic

or sidereal aproximations. You'll have Sun in Ophiucus, Pluto in

Coma Berenices, Moon in Cetus, Venus in Hydra, Mercury in Sextans

and your progressions will never be the same, since we're using

the extrazodiacal progressions in real astronomical format to

predict events overlooked by other astrologies.

 

Your planets have their right to be observed in the constellation

they happened to be in! NASA JPL is in Pasadena, CA (not in China)

and Pluto is presently in Ophiucus (and it can _never_ be in Aries

or Pisces!) as Mercury is in Sextans and the Moon in Cetus.

 

Stay fascinated with your TRUE NATAL PLANETARY POSITIONS! You

might have Hydra ascending with Moon in Sextans or Sun conjunct

Mercury in Ophiucus and you never knew it!

 

A complete revision of the astrological system from resurfaced

egyptian and mayan astrology to NASA borne transneptunians and

centaurs.

 

Give your planets the right to be where they really are!

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@puck.dhs.org

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From: Claudio Solis (quaoar@phenix.rootshell.be)

Subject: Extrazodiacal Ascendants

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Date: 2003-07-23 00:24:55 PST

 

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= Cardinal Constellations in Astrology =

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://puck.dhs.org

 

Looking at my chart (actually the whole of the stellar globe),

I conclude four essential points and begin studying my nativity.

 

http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000002.GIF

 

 

The ascendant constellation is Monoceros. That gives me a

pioneering nature. God knows I'm pioneering. I do nothing

else. I have guts to be hated. Tons of. There's Uranus

near the ascendant to make thing worse. Pylenor is (uups

...) 1994 TA is right on the ascendant. Recently I have

interpreted the placement of a totem unicorn without any

hesitation; fungsuey unicorn rotation online. He was to

head West, however (the ascending unicorn is East).

 

The Monoceros ascendant loves adventure, travel; it is

purposeful, endeavoring, enterprising, headstrong,

persistant, likes change (I am the Book of Change)

and is ambitious. Well, not bad for the Unicorn constellation.

In fact it defines me already. This is far better than being just

a Leo, any leo, or whatever. It feels much better than vedic stuff,

too. I'm finally breathing: Monoceros ascending when they ask.

I'm actually very unicornish, amberan. Ever read `Nine Princes

in Amber'? Roger Zelazny. There's even a newsgroup.

 

 

http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000001.GIF

 

O.K. turn to right. The descendant is Aquila. Besides various

occasions, cults and one my initiation, I happen to have one

on the wall, it was one of my first majikal feats. I had it

in hours. This eagle holds an OYPOBOPOC snake of infinity

(ophic mysteries O0IC). The eagle has landed on my descendant

and is alteregoing. This Eagle constellation is near the Snake.

Objects hover there and we even had (cough) Nibiru there...

This Aquila is more like a gryphon. I am doomed to strong women.

 

http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000004.GIF

 

Turn to South. The M.C. is Phoenix. Teatro de la Fenice. Burns,

is reborn. I asked I Ching once what to do of the material. It

was bulky and I had no room for it any more. Room means room.

It occupied a room or two. I burned it. But I keep on writing

about I Ching and divination is like breathing for me. I'm not

even conscious in that I'm divining, it is too natural for me.

 

Greyhounds...

http://puck.dhs.org/stargate/VerNeitNubti/00000003.GIF

 

 

 

Canes Venatici I.C.. Neptune is there. Labradors. Water plus

dogs. I am enamored of labradors and could roll with them all

night long i marshy swamps and swim into deep lakes. Waterdogs.

I guess I'm the ideal dog sitter, well perhaps not ideal...

 

We have thus assembled the four cardinal points. Four is a great

number but I must close this article in hope that you had .. fun.

 

Klaudio Zic,

Venice Lagoon

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matriX time:

 

 

~

Sun Jul 20 23:06:59 GMT 2003

 

 

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Subject: Re: Personal Asteroids + Pholus

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* Planet Pholus, the Wanderer *

 

 

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Pholus in Houses

 

1. This is a position of the cosmopolitan mind.

Pholus on the ascendant or in the first house

marks a mobile and unregular life. As an

example we have the traveling photographer.

 

 

2. Roaming access to your account and temporary

loss of money when Pholus is in the second

house.

 

3. Briefs such as this analysis, quick schedule

builders, blitz interviews and a sense of

overall improvisation with Pholus in third.

 

4. Changes are studied and patterns of timespace

arrange for insight with Pholus nadiring.

 

5. Celibacy and meditation with Pholus in fifth.

One definitively has no love for trivia.

To others he might seem a troublemaker.

 

6. Pholus in sixth. Rituals such as of left tantra.

Success as seaman. Swiss banks protect your capital.

A discrete standard even after heavy taxing.

 

7. Unmarried does not mean haremless.

When Pholus is in the 7th house, the soul mate

is from another place. It might even be off the planet

or from dreamland.

 

8. This is a very loving position. Tears will clean

the way to sincerity. Davison relationship synastry

reports will determine the time of love.

 

9. Dreaming together and contacts with your guru in

the astral kingdom. Pholus is about traveling and

is accordingly obviousely strong in 12th 3rd and 9th.

 

10. Artists could profit from this position. The would be

guru has yet to discard his human frame. Media like

TV.

 

11. Moving inside his own clan he keeps the core sincere.

Pholus is a happy family man when the big clan

prospers

and perhaps lively transactions happen from within

it's circle. An advice is to increase severity and

nevertheless cherish the woman as the centre of the

clan. This is NASDAQ's position.

 

12. Samadhi is the end of married life. Yin and Yang

unmarry here. Tao knows neither Yin nor Yang.

One quits entangling himself with the world of

duty, parents long gone, he quits mindane business

and has his ego as the only devil to face to the end.

 

 

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<Libralove@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:<BC0B95EC.5811%Libralove@austin.rr.com>...

> Nona Gwynn Press (I believe it was) and a number of other asteroid lovers

> have said that "personal asteroids" are very important. I heard a tape once

> about Princess Diana and her asteroid, Diana. Also the asteroid, Dodu (Dodi)

> in her chart.

>

> It does not have to be the exact same spelling of your name or you SIG

> other's name.

>

> I am doing a synastry with a couple that the woman's personal asteroid in

> the man's natal chart has just progressed to an exact conjunction with the

> man's Sec. Prog. Asc after 3 years absence, asteroid "Linda" is on him

> again. So a personal reconnection with/woman's personal name asteroid.

>

> Anyone else use personal name asteroids?

>

> The guy's N. Pholus is also exactly on the woman's N. Dsc.

>

> Here's what these guys say about Pholus at:

>

> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7969/pholus.htm

>

> " POSSIBLE KEYWORDS

>

> * awakening

> * borderline(-situations, in double sense)

> * scaling

> * the unconscious takes control

> * freeing, release

> * facing lacks, undeveloped aspects

> * euphoric feelings

> * unstable and new (sometimes dangerous) situations, difficult to deal

> with

> * intensity, intensifier

> * to be spurred on

> * to "stumble" in new situations"

>

>

> "Robert and Dieter published an article on Pholus in The Mountain

 

> Astrologer. They wrote that "the discovery of Pholus marked the beginning of

> important progress in the field of astronomy. It held answers to many

> questions that Chiron had raised." And, "Translated into astrological terms,

> this means that Chiron brings long and helpless waiting, while Pholus, on

> the other hand, brings immediate progress."

>

> "Nick Campion quotes Robert as saying of Pholus that "He intensifies very

> strong, brings you to your limits, raises a strong urge for growing (but

> often very spontaneously and unconscious), when at the same time you feel a

> lack of inner possibilities to grow in that specific area. Therefore you

> live in a very unstable 'borderline' situation, where you tend to do things

> impulsive (to cross the border) or you don't do anything at all, because you

> feel an inner blockade."

>

> What the heck does that last sentence mean? Is this astrological mumbo

> jumbo, or not? Sounds like it is either "stop" or "go" OR "on" of "off" just

> like Uranus -- a binary thing. Any ideas about this one?

>

> Interesting about "apoptosis" programmed cell death, which I work with all

> the time in cell biology, was discovered at the same time.

>

> Pholus was killed by a bit of poison from a poisoned arrow that he was

> pulling out of (helping) another centaur remove.

>

> Any Pholus followers out there? -- LL

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