2004 dw apokalipsa

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Tjah sem zrachunal rojstvo ANTIKRISTICE. Pa kaj. She vedno

je Sveti Juda Tadej zraven (na TroMostovju, Trgu). +

 

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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%222004+...&oe=UTF-8&hl=en

 

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Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending,

many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant!

 

= 2004 DW = http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Updates

 

It seems we have a new object in astrology. While Quaoar

was delineated in Ophiucus, 2004 is in Hydra, both snaky

zodiacal constellations. Many of you have Sun in Ophiucus

but nobody in Hydra. Planets, minor planets, as well as

the ascendant are nevertheless often in Hydra, an interesting

long constellation as concerns size, depth and mythology.

 

Hydra ascending with 2004 DW for newborn babies shown for

various locations, 5 pm Glasgow, 17:11 Rio, 16:30 Charlotte, NC.

Various appendixes incorporated in this text, as well

as the newsgroup and our Archives explain the mysterious

facets of 28zodiac astrology while introducing new ones.

 

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

 

2004 DW in Canis Minor: Death, lost battle, ressurectiOM.

Slain god cults.

 

2004 DW in Orion: 1957 was a peculiar year, indeed.

Family values, new colors and sounds,

leisure, fun, atomic bomb. Sicherheit

zu Erste. Protection is the main

pO5sessiOM. Orators can be sincere.

 

2004 DW in Hydra: Dangerous waters! (present position).

One sleeps on sexualaurels. Lolita.

Lady Scarlet is teen!

 

Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending,

many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant!

 

2004 DW in Sextans: The Messiah. 2007 Venus in Hydra?

 

2004 DW in Crater: The time of the false prophets. LegislatiOM.

 

2004 DW in Corvus: Oberon and Puck revived in druidic England

and Syria. Dolphin cults. Inspection and

spiritual protection. The Holy Raven.

 

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Time to discover your own position and those of your future

children and favorite tiranitoes. We will use genuine ancient

ways (stargazing) whernever it's possible to capture 2004 DW

's message, more or less messianic.

 

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

 

666 is no longer alone

 

2004 DW in the 6th house is the Whore of the Apocalypse.

 

Babalon's Progress

2004 DW off Tiamat's Back and into the Apocalypse

Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra?

 

Largest discovery after Pluto! http://puck.dhs.org /2004DW

Astromajikal Delineation and Update, Mar 5th 2004.

See = Adenda = for astrological novices, curious and the expert!

© 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html

 

Note that we dismiss it's "position in Leo" as unsensical.

Your local astronomer will, of course, agree. Your shaman

will agree. Nature agrees. Star gazing confirms. So there's

no need to pay attention to "2004 DW in Leo" gibberish.

When and if it's in Leo sometimes, we'll let you know.

It may as well be it never reaches Leo proper. Pluto never

reaches Aries or Pisces, so that would be no surprise!

 

Introduction for the general reader:

 

True Zodiac = Albeit generally assumed (?) the zodiac has

13 constellations, it has in fact 28 constellations (or 29

if we split Serpens Cauda from Serpens Caput). Hydra is

not only zodiacal, but also ascendental, meaning many of

you were born with Hydra ascending (since occult is at

stake). One cannot e.g. have Aries ascending in due east.

 

The 28zodiac has an astronomical rationale. After my own

modest research triumphing in indian summer 2003, I have

found by sheer chance a research has been conducted in

the late seventies as a couple of astronomers (NC U.S.A.

and Belgium) with the results published in popular format.

 

The zodiac has 28 constellations, and if we exclude Pluto

as planet (something already largely proposed), it has a

convenient number of 24 (but astrlogers will use 25)

constellations. This has nothing to do with outdated

vedic calc and has everything to do with IAU.

 

Giant Transneptunians = objects larger than the main belt

asteroids (e.g. Eunomia or Vesta). They are usually fall

into cubewano (Varuna) or plutino (Ixion) class. The SDO

or Scattered Disk Objects are also taken into account.

Since 1992 we have discovered 800 transneptunians.

 

Centaurs = popular lively objects "closer" to us. Chariklo

and Hylonome are female centaurs. Among the others Cyllarus,

Thereus, Nessus, Pelion, Chiron, Elatus, Pholus, 2004 CJ39.

 

Extrazodiacal = A convenient term that may drop out soon

as it served it's purpose. It may even create some confusion

when Pluto is degraded as plutino. Use "28 Constellations

Zodiac" to upgrade from http://puck.dhs.org/extra

 

Disposing of Pluto, we are left with a convenient (?) 24

constellations zodiac. In that cases constellations such

as Bootes would be called "extrazodiacal", along with Pluto's

(a.k.a. "out of bounds") "extreme" = extrazodiacal positions.

 

Ascendant = Eastern constellation and inorganic being (especially

head or ascended master-star). Aries cannot ascend in due east at

this time and age, but it used to at the time when Crater was an

ascendental constellation, too. http://puck.dhs.org/nu 4examples.

http://puck.dhs.org/extra for "extrazodiacal" (! constellations.

 

One note:

 

The "13th" constellation is Ophiucus, a large strip of the zodiac.

As the Sun spends an average of (roughly!) six days in Scorpius, it

slips by Ixion into Ophiucus to meet Quaoar, Pluto, 2002 MS4 there,

along with the Moon, Mercury, Venus and (all) other planets, as well.

 

For Pluto and Jupiter in Ophiucus see = Adenda = at the bottom of

this article. At the time you read this, Pluto may be moving into

Scutum (the resent position of Juno!: see Juno-minded appendix).

 

Have a planet in Ophiucus? Search http://groups.google.com for

"Sun in Ophiucus" or "Venus in Ophiucus" delineations. That

applies for Saturn or Venus in Orion and other 28zodiacal

poO5itions, "Venus in Hydra" including.

 

(continued)

 

Whatever difficult position you may have in your nativity,

hard work benefits. Monastery discipline is needed to overcome

this object's influence. Abramelin would particulary elaborate

on it, but we have Elipinon! http://www.lava.net/~pagios

 

Statements like "2004 DW in Leo" have no sense. By the way,

Pluto is never in Aries or Pisces. http://puck.dhs.org/nu

Hydra is a long thing, so 2004 DW's journey through Hydra

roughly lasts 12 years. You can have Hydra ascending, of

course, in your own natal chart (but you can't have e.g.

Aries ascending). 2004 DW in Hydra roughly 1984 - 2006.

 

Parenting in 2007? You are not alone, either.

 

See also "Venus in Hydra". The site abounds with data

pointing to possible special incarnations, especially in 2007!

Parents should exercise extra timing and ritual!

 

It seems like the devils blow their 13th trombone

After giant Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/enter.html

we have 2004 DW. Lady Scarlet of the Apocalypse

bathes in her poisonous pool as female monsters

rise. Whoever saith antiChrist's a male?????????????

The site includes the calculations and birthright of the

antichrists. Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra?

 

Our blood is poison to the lips of the Beast!

 

An object larger than Quaoar has been recently discovered.

This article will require some familiarity with the True

Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra,

(Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on

it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a

centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the

centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation

use: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html Important

objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can

use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines

to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian.

 

The greatest discovery after Pluto, 2004 DW receives it's

first delineation. As we had Quaoar in houses, so we have

 

2004 DW in Houses

 

The largest discovery after Pluto may be the Devil Himself

for some and Loving Guardian Angel for the rest. Such is

it's dual nature. Man has two minds and it is 2004 DW that

makes them clash asunder towards the apocalyptic End of Time.

2004 DW in Houses

 

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Among the predictable and average errors will be this object's

assignation to "tropical Leo", an unexisting and absolutely foul

preassumption of the poor mind. 2004 is not nearly in Leo, it is

in Hydra. Worse: it is not heading towards any "astrological"

constellation, as the illustrations clearly show and purporting

text discusses in some (even mythological) detail.

 

The other gross errors will spring from the aspects of 2004 DW.

People assume the zodiac is some kind of ring. It is a belt

made of 28 constellations (not 13). While 2004 DW may hold

extrazodiacal positions (kind of tricky to check out), it

nevertheless perfectly occupies _zodiacal_ constellations,

such as Hydra, Sextans, Crater, Corvus, Orion, Aquila, to

mention some. Venus is in Orion this summer so Orion is a

zodiacal constellation. This truism will puzzle alanleist

astrologers, more than his own inabillity to calc his chart.

 

http://puck.dhs.org/nu /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar (corrections)

 

Some will assume a distant Sun has this or that aspect, even

conjunction with 2004 DW, while the objects will be constellations

apart. This is largely an error with stars, such as Beta Persei

or Scheat (or 2002 TX300 giant transneptunian) and a variety

(actually majority!) of objects (including some planets!) with

"out-of-bound" (bound?) positions, e.g. "extreme" (???)

declinations. First he assumes the zodiac has 12 (???) "signs"

(?????), then he assumes all planet(oid)s "glide" along the

same (fairly circular) track. Then errors spring. People

already fancy conjunctions and even squares, since no one

told them (you tell what you know) the basics. People thinking

the zodiac has 13 (or even 12) "signs" are genuinely and raving

equinoctially mad. For all practical (?) purposes we assume Pluto

is a planet, and so most of you do assume there is something like

a 12 sign zodiac. One took some school drafts too seriousely.

 

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

 

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In North Carolina there's an observatory that knows the 28 zodiacal

constellations. And there's an astronomer in Belgium that agrees.

The truth must be told to the ahstrological communtity (even if they

won't listen), since there are rare "incarnations" among them that

have "astrological" (or even astronomical) aspects in their charts.

A few of them could study astrology. This would rise the number of

astrologers on this planet from perhaps half a dozen to dozenful.

 

(This is the first annotation, rough keywords used.)

The houses are usually numerated and "understood" in

a crooked way, e.g. the house of the rising Sun is

labeled 12th, and has a particullary bad reputation.

 

Let us be certain that the devil installs minds. Astrologers

have minds. The suggestion is to use 12th=1st, 11th=2nd and

so on. It is still better to use a 28 house system (allowing

29 for Caput and cauda Serpentis) in our fully operative and

astronomically precise 28 constellation zodiac.

 

1. Lamia. Three watersnakes with female faces seduce the youth

like Ida Pingala and Shushumna. Study Aquila and Leo. Alchemy.

 

666 is allone, even after a ritual with a compatible Beast.

NEM0's whiteness is not like silvery apparition. Brahma's

womb is not sunnya sunnyata. Voidless Void. O5 NETI NETI.

Final annihilation. Loneliness. There's N0 0NE BUT ME!

 

Agent Smith's "Me, me, me!". Projection. Futile riches.

Gay cataclysm. Satan. The Fall. Ecliptic times. The primal

wound. Left body stirring. The Dark Side. The triumph of

Naga Sadow. All fall! Hell is white.

 

The three-in-one vampirelike monster of the pool is however

devoured by their victim after having sex with him. Lamia is

not a bad alternative (to Aiwass) for this object, at least

while it venoms our perception pool with triurne kundalini.

 

Wav files as opposed to mp3 files. Waves as opposed to life

compression. cOMpress time, rather than life. Don't waste a

second. Gulp it up. Devour the day.

 

Scarlet Lady masquerading as watermonster? Don't we have

submarines? /1/

 

2. You give too much of your energy. This is bad for money

matters. Jesus Christ was ultimately sold. The formula

of the dying God. Do not lend on interest. Save yourself

first. Keep some for yourself.

 

Your vital energy is beng sucked through as the vampire gets

away with it. The sacrifice was accepted by the greedy inorganic,

yet there is no receipt note or thanksgiving or anything in left

in exchange.

 

Hell's entrance. PORTA INFERNA. Set in the Desert. Lucifer.

Particularly demoniac with Venus Lucifer position (in Hydra).

 

Lost aircrafts. Highjacking. Deliberately shot airplane.

 

3. Good will prevail. True Mind triumphs in Silence and Intent.

This is bad for merchandize, ego, transactions and the devil.

Roughly meaning there is sympathy between the devil and the merchant.

 

Satan's source code. The MatriX. The well of the snakes.

Hell protecting the water of life. Black shiatsu.

 

4. Excellent for homely matters. Cosy home. Warm familiar

atmosphere. A Note: but that may take quitesome time!

A promise of a warm hearth, even if family life has

been less than ideal up to now. Note that we use the

nadir or due North instead of mere I.C.

 

Note that with Hydra North this is the Pool of the Lamia.

A sort of Scarlet Lady's basin (of the blood of the saints).

Love all serve bloody all.

 

A very good position! Angel guardian. Homework for my students:

when Hydra is due North, what do we face South? Love, lover,

love affairs, friendly dispO5ition, basic sincere friendship,

true communism, spirit of alliance, the ally, inorganic help.

 

An ally-angel carries the acolyte beyond this world.

"We will rock you little snake", devil rocked and warm in the

cradle of fillit, and one gets away without it! Liberation

with the help of the ascended Masters. Heads. Nadiric angel.

 

Time to study your own chart's Nadir to determine your Angel

of the Nadir. Rather tricky if you are familiar with I.C. only!

 

Evocation of the nadiric inorganic entity. Sure success in all.

This is also a disk Cretely fair material situation, all goes well.

 

In horary astrology: SHE LOVES YOU!

 

We can predict the rise of Nadiric astrology at this point!

Too early since our horaries can't calc the Moon:)

 

5. Unsure of one's own jealousy. Too reserved or outspoken

to be provoked into jealousy. One may even wish well one's

own rival. The ultimate vendetta is Love. The futile triumph

of the jealousy agent provocateur. Jealousy countered from

the very start. Expert jealousy v/s juvenile training.

 

Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and 2004 DW) in

Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and

Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation,

rather inclined towards loneliness).

 

Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including.

 

Turn around from lovesex. Get rid of that partner.

Sex as escape. Release of sperm and kundalini overweight.

 

This is surely not a kundalinic obesity pO5sition.

 

Touch'n'go!

 

One night stand.

 

6. Indulgence. Love all serve all. Devour all?

 

The whore (serve all). Scarlet Lady. Our Lady Babalon.

 

A harlot will learn.

 

To banish (discreate), use sibiline verse addressed to Holy

Queen Mother as given below.

 

7. Excellent for marriage. Note that we use the western horizon

instead of tropical astrology descendant. See our correction

of Rudhyar and Leo http://puck.dhs.org /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar

 

The wife as best enemy of the devil inside. Shy hermit is not

christ in hiding? Magdalen the Savior. Ciesa dea Madalena

http://puck.dhs.org/venexia Piglet saving the Tiger.

Invisible wife's allies, familiaries, the fallen, meek shall

florish. Non-persons. An inorganic wife (dwarfish or orkish

rather than undine).

 

8. Fertile impregnation. The watersnake. Tiamat raging in War.

The vampire fertilized. Meditate on the 47.

 

Vagina with teeth (various northamerican legends, tibetan

mandalas). Samsara as devouring entity. Merchandizing.

Quarrel. Third party intruding. Cutting off heads, punishing,

cutting off legs. Legal constraint. Bribery? Jack of axe.

 

Extreme severity in legislation. The law, the model.

Making love through the barricades (Spandau Ballet).

 

The wars are for the intelligent to learn. In war 2004 DW is

madness and religious paranoia. Holy wars were announced by

darkplanet Nemesis-Lamia conjunct Puto, Varuna and of course

Quaoar. http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

 

Schizodarknesseeks religious centre. O5 gives spheremajikal

geometrical barycentre. Aikido. Keep one point. Concentration.

Sex is, after all, one point! Phallic Sun, ejaculaion. The

birth of a good and religious child. He shall travel.

 

World religions apartunited by Lady Babalamia.

 

9. Passion. Dissipation. This is not good for the Spirit.

As they nibble the fruit of my flesh, I feel no pain.

 

Evil mantras will not have their way. Angelic operation in

the deep hells. Devahans under attack. Lord Shiva firing

his Trisula. Major discreation. Learning the secret of

the House of Hell. Intelligence and commando. dr. John

Dee (agent 007 of H.R.H.) inspecting enochian domains.

 

This position is fertile ground for the student. Forget

Vitriol 726 and concentrate on the Sound of Victory.

Left body stirring (but how!). Secret operation.

Global manipulation. The Dark Lodges. Our Lady Babalon.

 

10. Go for that partner. Climb social steeps. Or let thy weight

roll downhill, instead of pushing it up. Thelema. Khaled Khan.

Hydra at the meridian. The zenith of the 28 constellation

zodiac.

 

11. Legal interference. A disturbance in the Force.

The waters of the pool stirred?

 

This does not seem a bad position at all.

There is lot to work and learn and students and masters gat

along fine. There's willingness to learn.

 

Bad karma is dispelled.

 

12. Love divine. Moksha. True Love. Especially favorable with

Venus in Cancer. Less favorable with Venus in Hydra, Sextans.

Chariklo in Crater should be taken into account. The Graal.

We all have loved you, acolyte (says Lamia-Kundalini-Maya).

 

Original illumination. One shuns followers and is himSelf

begging no advantageous gods.

 

This is what Herman Hesse wrote of.

 

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Prayers shall be addressed to Holy Mary > The Queen of Omniverse.

 

4>57 Yilin transl. Robert Matushan boyler(at)hidden-city.net

 

" Troubles are dissolved and worries are removed, with the help of

the Queen Mother, participating in happiness all arrive and I can

live in peace. "

 

Let this Han dynasty verse discreate apprehension ("verso" means

"I sip" (pour) in italian" and establish the rulership of the good

Queen of Omniverse om mahalaxmyai namah (Holy Mary for christians).

 

The siren voice of senses is thus hushed. Hydra launches kundalini

up (and down!) the spine, hardly purified, indeed. When kundalini

is not pure ( > alt.clearing.O5 ), then

 

When the siren cries, we launch p+sitive mantras, rather than just

tap our ears! ( And whle inner and outer blend, we can "discreate"

that voice as inner. Let it be noted that that's a long way from

evocation and intercourse with the inorganic. The Lamia event is

what we call sex with the vampire (to the ultimate detriment of

the vampire). Our blood is poison for the lips of the Beast!

 

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Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

 

Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including.

 

Bad keys:

 

47 the vampire, one's life force gulped up by one's personal

devil or "voladero", the three Lamia or kundalinic watersnakes

sucking up the young acolyte's sexual energy, oral sex as path

to paradisisiac planets (not to moksha), swallowing sperm (as

in the vedas), kundalini as vampyre, Kali trumphant as killer,

jealousy, unwillingness to sumbit to good and (perhaps) obvious

authority, flaming with pride, unable to respect local/native

customs, lawless, troubled karma, intruding third person,

third man, go-beat-win, the devil itself, los volad-eros,

Kairo in flames, Set and his temporary victory over O5iris,

the staff of Set, Nibiru in triumph, warring Marduk, the

anrgy 4 archangelstars, lingam flying away on Maha Shivarathri.

 

Good keys:

 

Waking up with the house on fire, Lucifer as enlightment

bringer, the good salamander, Jupiter's Great Year and

good influence, Great Guardian Angel, love triumphs over

jealousy, TrueMind triumphs over False Ego, the 4 archangels,

the essence of heavenly love, illumination through love divine,

the Sphynx victorious, Saint Marc's winged lion with a sword

(his second gospel), PAX TIBI MARCE EVANGELISTA MEVS, Thelema,

Sai Baba, swallows in spring, Lesser Banishing Pentagram Ritual,

overcoming the distrust of the mob perhaps even obtaining fealty.

 

The rightous have no need to fear the Whip of God, since

it is a friendly Ripple of Change for them!

 

TrueMind triumphs over False Ego. This means the object is

Moon-friendly, but most likely to be Sun-unfriendly. The Sun

does not venture into Sextans or Hydra, but the Moon does and

Venus will "shortly" be there, too (after Orion).

 

The Moon (Isis) stands for True or Initiated Mind.

The Sun of course stands for the devil's install

or false ego. This is a truism in India as well

where Shiva is said to be higher than Krishna,

a lunar deity overriding the solar one, True Mind

emerging. It is worthless that the Moon is taken for

the soul's true significator! The Moon can be far

from the Sun, as it stomps from Sextans to Orion.

 

Venus and 2004 DW in Cancer make a loving pair!

This combination seems to be one of the luckiest

in astrology at large! Cancer stands for the constellation.

 

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A large object has been spotted in a disturbing constellation.

Hydra is Tiamat and has been rising it's head when important

occult operations were conducted, such as the writing of the

Book of Law. This puts us on guard against this object, which

will, amazingly disclose it's loving side like no Valentine

Centaur ever did!

 

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

 

Since the young reader might not be acquainted with Thelema or

whatever shumerian monsters, we owe him an explanation. Better,

here's another example! Lovecraft often threathened with gods

and forces from old, the ancients, finding their way from sealed

past tombs into this world. The Necronomicon is said to be one

such dubious unlocking key for more devils to come in and play.

The Star Wars fans will know the Sith and Krath, Naga Sadow,

Freedon Nadd, Ulic Qel-Droma and of course Extar Kun. The Force

has no dark or bright side as Dao knows neither yin nor yang.

It is the use of the Force to determine it's color.

2007 with Venus approaching Hydra's Head through Hydra's

demon minister Sextans, with so much Satrun and Regulus

has already been marked as special. This time we have a

devilish object influenced by Saturn (Venus translates

Saturn's energy bumping into 2002 AW197). All luciferian

implications of Venus are activated as Saturn stands for

the king (Regulus) of Hell itself, in person, so to say.

 

= Visiting the Monsters =

2004 DW and Hydra - Tiamut

 

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An object larger than Quaoar has been discovered recently.

This article will require some familiarity with the True

Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra,

(Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on

it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a

centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the

centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation

use: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html Important

objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can

use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines

to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian.

 

Note that 2004 DW scratches Hydra's back visiting her monsters.

This is more like towards a homework for the students, since

we sometime work on the delineations twogether. 2004 DW in

Sextans, Crater and Corvus is like three plagues if we observe

the dark side of 2004 DW, and this object most certainly has it!

 

"Visiting the Monsters" can be said to happen roughly every 100

years or so. We are risking quite some accuracy at this point,

the orbital elements being still updating, but you've got the

idea.

 

When sitchinian Tiamut is taken for ex planet and her "monsters"

= ministers are sattelites (e.g. evil Wind), we launch our experimental

nibiric binary system on the basis of old chinese codes, see also

Nibiru under http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html ( Enuma Elish ).

 

Abouts:

 

28 Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu

Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5

Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra

Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39

Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html

Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno

All Objects on http://groups.google.com

Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck

Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

 

Scourge/Whip of God or the Tail of the Devil ?

 

2004 DW Largest KBO

 

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

 

= 2004 DW a Bat out of Hell = http://puck.dhs.org

 

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The devil, personal or otherwise, has been dubbed "voladero",

using Carlos Castaneda's firsthand hellish experiences and

some of our own. This object, more than Quaoar, will resist

delineation, worse than in the remote case of Varuna, the

unfathomable object. For Varuna see http://groups.google.com

 

When we say man has two minds, we allude to the foreign install

averagely at the tender age of three being not our mind at all.

Compare with "Dark City" and "Matrix" the movies.

 

The position of this major transneptunian object in Hydra

is close to the Ascendant of the Book of Law, Kairo 1904.

 

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Let not the word "love" be associated with popular sexual

allusion only. 2004 DW has much thelemitic about it as

Love is the Law, but Love under a Strong Will (or, rather,

True Will).

 

Love is terrifying to everyone. It terrified people who met

"angels", like the One who wrestled with the "ally" "at

Peniel" (Face of God). (A form of the word "Peniel", in

fact determines the angel, as well as the wrestlinground).

 

This object's totems are the four archangels. Meaning the

four royal stars of Persia.

 

The main problem with simple interpretation of this

"object"-spirit is that it bears both Love Divine and

the most terrifying wrath of Satan in it's own lap!

 

With Chariklo and 2004 DW at the lap-bottom, Venus going

into a mad loop with Saturn Regulus and kissing 2002 AW197,

August 2007 seems to be the birthplace of Satan.

 

I was tempted to determine the birth time for the "ideal"

antiChrist, using this new object and perhaps I did the

work too well. Namely, Venus in it's lowest position and

retrograde, heading towards Hydra with a strong ifluence

from Saturn and Regulus alone "make me wonder". We have

copious material about "extrazodiacal" Venus on the site

and http://groups.google.com "Venus+extrazodiacal".

 

Some will justly conclude that the Devil himself paid us a

visit (as if he wasn't in our every cradle?). In 2004 DW

the absurd but deadly victory of the inorganic pest we call

the personal devil (voladero) clashes with the triumphing

True Mind.

 

Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and 2004 DW) in

Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and

Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation,

rather inclined towards loneliness).

 

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

 

Abouts:

 

Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

28 Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu

Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39

Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html

Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno

All Objects on http://groups.google.com

Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck

Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5

Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra

 

The label "Aiwass" for the planetoid is provisory, and

as are this fairly accurate ephemeris by Jon Giorgini

of NASA JPL, to whom go all our thanks and esteem.

Please assume the object is still a puzzle as it's

orbital elements are being determined with progressive

precision. In the first days of the discovery, it was

thought a cubewano, then a plutino, and it's relative

magnitude is still estimated. As son as the object's

orbital elements are esteemed reliable, numerical

integration is possible for distant dates. Aldo Vitagliano

and his Solex software use the NASA model to calculate

dates otherwise not supplied by NASA HORIZONS.

 

Aleister Crowley 2004 DW

 

1875-Sep-20 00:00 288.9969990 8.7303227

1875-Oct-01 00:00 288.9629561 8.7020916

1875-Oct-12 00:00 288.9919660 8.6722306

1875-Oct-23 00:00 289.0843245 8.6425650

1875-Nov-03 00:00 289.2384987 8.6147722

 

The 1600 - 2100 ephemeris are on the site. The files are

comparatively large (over 1 Mb). Mail for compressiOM!

 

Largest discovery after Pluto! http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

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Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

 

Adenda

====== Pallas and Juno have been included. Juno is too small

to have any meaning in modern astrology, being dwarfed

by too many minor planets, but it retains a historical

... charm. Albeit small, Pallas is considerably up the

perimeter range. The giant transneptunians have been

dwarfing the main belters for quite some time now.

 

Pallas meets 2004 DW in Hydra. Pallas wherabouts in short.

 

= NEAT Pallas = http://puck.dhs.org

 

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April 1st 2004 Pallas and giant comet NEAT meet in Eridanus

constellation. Hopefully the river Po in Italy will not flood,

as Eridanus is that precise river.

 

Pallas leaves Cetus (where it was able to conjunct Moon in Cetus)

for Eridanus and NEAT, heading towards it's doom in Al Nitak or

CINGVLA ORIONUS. http://puck.dhs.org/nu Orion O5IRIS

 

Both Eridanus and Orion are operative constellations used in

astrology. We don't use just the 28 zodiacal, but all the 88

constellations, completing embracing enfolding inspiring and

overhelming our belowed coocoon astral energy body like an egg

projecting or being Omniverse itself, as the Eagle presses His

Intent unto us.

 

Those with Aquila ascending (roughly Chiron around the ascendant)

may have Juno in Scutum (see article) around the ascendant at this

time.

 

Pallas in CINGVLA ORIONIS will be delineated for the inner circle

of O5IRIS students.

 

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= Ascendental Warning =

 

It is often tricky to determine when an object is on the

ascendant, as we have clearly pointed at in the cases of

some astrologer's charts http://puck.dhs.org /alan.leo

 

While 2004 DW in Hydra is a normal ascendental position,

the neighboring example of Chariklo in Crater serves for

an example in cases when 2004 DW will visit that constellation.

 

When due East ( = the ascendant proper ) is in Virgo ( a

fairly large constellation ), Crater with Chariklo are

ascending, too. One may say his due eastern ascendant

is Virgo, with Chariklo rising in Crater. It seems the

only way to put it. Thus we treat several ascending

constellations in some cases, namely the true due

eastern constelllation ad the neighboring one.

 

In different times different constellations are due

eastern. Crater was and will be such a constellation

and it is interesting to note Aries can rise in due

east roughly in times when Crater does so. The two

cannot ascend in due east when it comes to our present

time. http://puck.dhs.org/nu for details!

 

*

 

The following verses have to do with 28zodiacal astrology.

In the case of Pallas meeting 2004 DW in Hydra, our object

is directly involved. In other cases it is either in some

sort of aspect like (large) opposition or it is not involved

at all. The following are just examples from a broader

survey on the 28zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/extra

 

Do astrologers use constelaltions like Ophiucus or Auriga?

They do! The stars are there! Also: the discoveries are there,

e.g. Quaoar in Ophiucus. As Quaoar is far from Sagittarius, so

is 2004 DW far from Leo.

 

Is there any difference? There is! If your Moon is in Sextans,

you are prone to discrete aloofness, lonely pursuit, and may

even be too shy to form a relation (or too ambitious to keep

it). Moon in sextans people simply work too much, think too

much and the yellow brick road to hell is paved with golden

benevolence. Too much of a good thing? Perhaps losing an edge

is not that bad for concentration. Monasteries may abound with

Moon in Sextans people. New Year 2004 nativities are bent towards

any occult pursuit and wil enjoy memorable fish dinners, as their

Moon is in Cetus.

 

Popular programs like astrolog.org by Walter Pullen can perform

fairly well in the area of 28zodiacal and extrazodiacal astrology.

The function is

 

$ astrolog -XF -Xi -Xr -Xm

 

You should obtain something like Juno in Scutum and that's

28zodiacal astrology proper (albeit the zodiac pertains to

the planets, only partially /so-to-say/ to the minor planets.

 

Et voila!

 

March hares 2004 have Juno in Scutum? Are they mad?

 

= Juno in Scutum = http://puck.dhs.org

 

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28zodiacal astrology includes Scutum constellation. Being

born with Aquila ascending this days means having Juno in

Scutum in the 12th or 1st house. Never use tropical calculus

to know which, one, it'll fail.

 

What is this position about? The evil majikian uses his

majik mirror and fogs timespace. Especially time. Time

lapses get less reliable here.

 

Marriage gets dull. There's agression ahead of an average

sullen day. Triangle relationships break up and one finds

oneself temporarely alone.

 

Allone eternal but constancy does not mean escaping the

tooth of time. The practice of time discreation. Intent

enables teleportation.

 

Marriage was determined from the start as if parameters

won't change. The very institution of marriage is not

only in crisis: it is unbearable: nothing there for the

neophyte.

 

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So if I have Chiron ascending, Juno is in the 12th house in

Scutum? Is that getting too exciting? What about some more?

Beware the serpent's tail, since it is about to hit!

 

= Pluto in Serpens Cauda = http://puck.dhs.org

 

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Let it be noted that, while Pluto is still in Ophiucus at the

time of the article, it'll move into Serpens Cauda towards 2006

and it'll be Jupiter rejoicing with Ixion, Quaoar and 2002 MS4

in Ophiucus at that time.

 

Thus Serpens Cauda is not a fictious invention of some 28zodiacal

astronomy, it is a real planetary position (while Pluto is still a

planet). While a bunch of astronomers (rare fellows) will agree on

a 28 constellation zodiac, we have found convenient to split Serpens

into it's two halves, thus we have Pluto in Serpens Caput (Alpha

Serpentis!) and Pluto in Serpens Cauda, the mild version of the

evil star conjunction.

 

Search http://groups.google.com for delineations. See also data base

http://puck.dhs.org/extrazodiacal

 

People will be born with several planets in Ophiucus, which in fact

is not rare at all, Ophiucus being a large zodiacal constellation.

What _is_ rare is to have a planet in Scorpius. The narrow stripe of

zodiacal Scorpius with it's Antares star (and archangel) allows for

an extremely brief sojourn of any planet. The Sun may spend from 6

to 7 days in that constellation, making Scorpius nativities extremely

rare. People are of course made to believe they're born in this or that

"sign" by people who'll never know their own Sun's position. That is

only the dawning of the age of error, as we have people running around

with positions erroneous by two houses or two "signs", believing one

is a "Scorpio". Myself born Nov 28 have Sun conjunct Antares and am

qualified as true Scorpius. But how many of you can claim that position?

 

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Popravljeno 10. marec 2004 -> ananta

[Marsa]

Ne najdem efemerid oz. podatkov, ne morem si sploh ustvarit mnenja.

Ne stekam, v bistvu, kaj zdaj s tem.

Malo vec v morda pogovornem jeziku tudi?

[lunca]

Ananta prosim, če mal razložiš to, vsaj v par stavkih. Mogoče mi bo potem bolj jasno.

[El Nino]

že spet ta konec sveta, ne me jebat... me bo še konec od tega (torej konec sveta afterall)

[Marsa]

Intruder ima veckrat prav v svojih napovedih, samo jih moras znati brati vcasih... :o|o:

 

Ce si predstavljas karte (tarot) - je on nekaksen Magus (*z recimo kanckom Fool-a).

Njemu je dolgcas tole - mars v 4. hisi..., tranzit saturna na mars..., ... :o|o:

[č.v.e.k.a]

že spet ta konec sveta, ne me jebat... me bo še konec od tega (torej konec sveta afterall)

 

 

itaq osvajamo..upsss osvajajo Mars

[Amis]

mogoče pa samo konec znanega (sveta)

[ananta]

Zhivjo Marsa. Fool kot (tibetanski horoskop) = gibon:)

 

Drugach (tibetanski) brown goose (klepetalec?).

 

Pridem, se oglasim;)

 

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%222004+...&oe=UTF-8&hl=en

[Marsa]

OK, Claudio - 'izgubila' mobi, dobila prejle sms. Zvrcni ali sms-aj, ko bos v LJ.

Pridi na LN party - Rakitna, 29. marec.

[ananta]

Ti voxmail = ??? moj je + 385 91 70 108 108 4

 

torej 70 vmes. Vedno Rakitna:)

 

Tropikalno (hmmm) je sedna nekjer na 17 tau.

 

2004 DW je nekjer na 25 leo.

 

To sta dva nova pomembna objekta. Kar zgodovinska.

 

Too much ekskluzive tlele, she observatoriji nimaju teh podatkov;)

[Buddha]

je kj napredka že bolj ?

[ananta]

Ko Orcus preide v Sextans je mnda reforma ali konc Vatikana, namreč je Sextans ascendent vatikana. Orcus je 2004 DW

[principesa]

VES sončni sistem z njegovimi vidnimi in nevidnimi planetije velik oder razvoja, kjer se razvija raznovrstno življenje v različnih stopnjahin neskončno mnogo oblikah k vse večji popolnosti....gmotno sonce x!x in zvezde premičnice, ki so z njim povezane so najzunajnejši in najpogostejši del sončnega sistema, ki ga tvori več nevidnih svetov sestavljenih iz vse finejše snovi, ti nevidni sistemi prežemajo fizični svet.....no dobr, to še neki kapiram, ampak zdej ti men razloži..kako si prišel do sklepa da bo 22.01. apokalipsa? in dej mi razloži kako deluje ČRNA LUKNJA? RES ME ZANIMA ? LP

[ananta]

Črne luknje delamo (malo je zamudno) z SIMBAD NASA postrežnikom (v Franciji).

 

JAN 22nd = Orcus dela konjunkcijo (angularna, torej natančna) z Aplhard v Hydra.

 

Bush ga pa s.j.e = vse se strinja

 

mars je v Ophiucus in dela konjunkcijo z (Quaoar) U.S.A. ascendentom. U.S.A. ascendent je namreč Ophiucus.

 

Katastrofalni idijot Bush ga bo spet za....

[principesa]

[ananta]

Ljubezev vključuje in transcendira črne luknje:)

[stankaa]

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>mars je v Ophiucus in dela konjunkcijo z (Quaoar) U.S.A. ascendentom. U.S.A. ascendent je namreč Ophiucus.

 

Za Busha je jasno, da po starem -> slabo naprej.

Mars in Quaoar konjunkcija, spet preko nasilja do neke nove situacije

ampak Quaoar bi naj pomenil nato nekaj boljšega kot pred konjunkcijo...?

[principesa]

ma ni mi jasn kaj ima BUSH pr tem kaosu vesolja? a nanj vpliva drugace ?

[stankaa]

A meniš, da ima Bush pozitiven vpliv in da dela red

in ne kaos?

[principesa]

menim da je BUSH velik komedijant , ki je naredil več zla kot vsi predsedniki pred njim....in ga bo še sejal ,zlo, namreč, ampak saj je on tudi lutka v rokah"ozadja" .....da nam rekla koga....in res nevem kaj ima vpliv astrologije pri tem? vse je v GLAVI.

[ananta]

s3njam se! a je to tvoja muca? nor sem na muce (*:B

[ananta]

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Za Busha je jasno, da po starem -> slabo naprej.

Mars in Quaoar konjunkcija, spet preko nasilja do neke nove situacije 

ampak Quaoar bi naj pomenil nato nekaj boljšega kot pred konjunkcijo...?   

 

Zelo kreativno!Bravo!!!

 

Jaz pa videm podmornice... tipično moški...;(

 

Lepo pitezo si naredila, stANKaa...

[principesa]

jes,jes ananta....to je moja muca,plavooki zmaj nora sem nanj... njega mi je sam BOG poslal...verjamem v čudeže...