To jay.m.pasachoff@williams.edu president IAU Comission 46 Dear Sir! I represent IAU Compatible Astrology. This astrology works with the IAU 28 Constellations Zodiac (e.g. Venus in Hydra), eastern or due precession corrected ascendants, as well as comets (like Wild) and objects of interest like Sedna, Orcus, Earth trojans and the alike. Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer CanisMinor Capricorn. Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemnini Hydra Leo Minor Leo Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo During my research I have made large use of Jon Giorgini's HORIZONS integrator, as well as other astronomical programs. The formula under which I work is Astrology=Astronomy. I have found you looking for my own sites; the search was "iau+astrology". As I intended to contact you sooner or later, let this sooner not be too soon, considering my lack of education, overcompensated by zeal. I have no good words for astrologers, who immensely distort our true skies. As I depend on NASA JPL and Harvard MPC for my updates, I thought astrologers will accept me as reformator, but that happens too slow. Using a primitive program like SKYGLOBE enabled me to proclaim the reformation. It took two summer months to check for zodiacal positions. Astrologers seem to lack perspective. They simply cannot imagine Venus in Cetus. I am the first who wrote in an astrological way of such discoveries like Varuna, Ixion, Quaoar and Sedna. I reported about Sedna 5 days before NASA's comunique. The astrological community hardly accepts such expressions like Orcus in Hydra or Sedna in Cetus. They use a false or outdated zodiacal model, probably egyptian astronomical primary school stuff. They have the psychological problem of accepting the skies as they reallz are. I elaborated on this point in detail. Astrology is a comparatively simple science enabling everybody to calculate e.g. the year of someone's marriage within seconds. This should be well known as "primary direction" technique, an easy to demonstrate arithmetical tool, needing no ephemeris or computer. I am a copious writer, mostly publishing on USENET. You can always find me using "iau+astrology". I hear protests from both parties while both parties should be aware the astronomer was always an astrologer. This is clear in shumerian, mayan, egyptian, indian, as well as chinese lore. Are the Navajo "Rabbit Paws" astrology or astronomy? Do they have a demarcation line between the two? Yours sincerely, Klaudio Zic Ivekoviceva 4 Rijeka 51000 Croatia +385911528964 (cell) reprogramatrixi@gawab.com http://users.tmok.com/~tarant8l /2005 (sample scans) P.S. Nearest PHA observatory astro.hr (Korlevic comet). Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer CanisMinor Capricorn. Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemnini Hydra Leo Minor Leo Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo Appended is a recent article, preceded by our Mission Statement: Astrology=Astronomy * Mission Statement © 2005 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Your scientifical astronomical horoscope Mail: iau28@yahoo.com By SMS +385911528964 news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Our mission is to inspire dramatic change in what astrologers expect from astronomy, allowing the creative astrologer to create, capture and communicate his ideas as never before. The introduction of creative tools such as the True Astronomical IAU 28 Zodiac and precision set of Precessed Ascendants for the current epoch is basic to freedom, as well as precision of expression in a modern astrologer. Our comittment is total when it comes to true planetary positions, as every planet, comet, minor planet and object is delineated in the constellation it happens to be in. The Sun is in Ophiucus, the Moon in Cetus, Pluto in Serpens Cauda, Orcus in Hydra, Ixion and Quaoar in Ophiucus, Sedna in Cetus, to name some current positions. Another currently quoted example is Aug 4th 2004 with Moon in Cetus, Mercury in Sextans, Venus in Orion and Juno in Scutum. The Astronomical Zodiac has 28 constellations according to the IAU standard. Your Venus can thus be in Scutum, Hydra, Corvus, Orion, Crater, Ophiucus, Cetus, Sextans, Pegasus as well as a variety of other constellations. When we say our commitment is astronomical precision we mean it. The new astrological system is immensely more rich in expression and versatility. Besides being IAU compatible, it is also rich with ancient wisdom, as coded in the 28 zodiacal, as well as 60 extrazodiacal constellations. One of them is Ophiucus, meaning mother Eve, the lady of the snakes, or Ashera. The implications are vast, but one does not go unmentioned, since it is the U.S.A. that have Ophiucus ascending, just as one recent candidate has Sun in Ophiucus and is therefore an ophiucian. Many astrologers will recall the Sun enters Ophiucus after spending one week in Scorpius, but it is Vigo that clearly stands out as most important constellation, with the Sun spending 45 days in this most beneficient part of God's sky. When Jupiter conjuncts Spica Virginis, it is in Virgo constellation. This point is very clear even to a child but somehow unclear to major astrological authorities and websites who developed the bad habit of displacing stars, planets, houses and information according to models of heavens that simply don't reflect the true state of affairs and they never did. The tapestry of stars and true astronomical zodiac, as well as the present precession corrected ascendants set are the basic tool of an astrologer ready for major upgrade. Precessed Ascendants for Current Epoch © Copyright 2005 Klaudio Zic Virgo Serpens_Caput/Cauda Ophiucus Aquila Aquarius Pisces Cetus Taurus Eridanus Orion Monoceros Canis_Minor Hydra Sextans Leo As precession progresses, the constellations rising in due east change, thus at some epoch one can have Aries rising in due east. In another epoch one can have perhaps Lepus rising, or Draco setting. The southern and northern horizon, as well as the nadir and zenith of the horoscope, are studied accordingly. Astronomical Zodiac Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis_Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma_Berenices Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemini Hydra Leo_Minor Leo Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo Articles and updates of the new astrological system, with this year's centaurs and transneptunians delineations are available through our newsgroup news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Alternative sources of articles http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck USENET users can search the http://groups.google.com interface for articles about the True Astronomical Zodiac (keyword neodruid.tk) http://users.tmok.com/~tarant8l/astrology http://neodruid.tk Besides http://neodruid.tk there's a site search on the site. http://users.tmok.com/~tarant8l /2005 /iau carries aditional info. Astrology=Astronomy * Mission Statement © 2005 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Your scientifical astronomical horoscope Mail: iau28@yahoo.com By SMS +385911528964 news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 About the Reintegration of Astrology into Astronomy © Copyright 2005 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://users.tmok.com/~tarant8l reprogramatrix@gawab.com About the Zodiac What went under the name of "astrology" in the past was far from the skies as seen by naked eye and astronomy. This point must be clear. There's no flat wheel in the sky with 12 busy slices and planets circling like olives on a pizza with 12 perfect pizza cuts called "signs". If such a model worked for remote exoteric schools (of which we have no firsthand information), it can not be accepted today. Much confusion was made along this line. Using the "12 signs zodiac" misplaces stars, to start with. Later on it confuses most elements of the so-called horoscope analysis, namely planets find themselves in wrong "houses" (above/below the horizon is not well defined, to say the least), the Sun is in another quadrant of the sky and all sorts of superstition and misconception make entrance. As I write this on Feb 12th 2005, the Moon is in Cetus constellation. The astrological mind attributes different "influences" to different positions of the planets, the Moon, Pluto, as well as comets, minor planets, earth trojans and various classes of "objects of interest". Moon in Cetus is not so interesting to astronomy (apart from a casual lesson in extreme declination), but is very interesting in astrology. Astrologers of course know nothing about Moon in Cetus and refuse to albeit gigabytes have been published about the proper zodiac and the "astrological influence" of this "rare" position. We must understand that, albeit from the astronomical viewpoint, the year 2005's Mercury Venus and Mars in Cetus zodiacal positions are taken for granted with no special meaning attached, from the astrological viewpoint it could mean the end of the world (or the whale). Leaving delineations and fancy behind, an interesting study in psychology, sociology and even demonology can be made by studying the effects of astronomy upon the "astrologically trained" mind. A confused mind reacts by calling upon collective error: "We can't all be wrong!", meaning the astrologer will call upon his "tribe" and NASA may as well pack to astrological classes. http://users.tmok.com/~tarant8l/capisces The above is a link to the pictorial story of one case of astronomical remedy upon astrological schizophrenia. The lady lived with the idea she was "Capricorn ascendant", a category meaning some Capricornus stars (or the (?)"astrological equivalent" and/or lack of) were rising at birth. The astronomical ascendant was clearly Pisces, meaning Pisces were rising in the east. There's quite a long way from Capricornus to Pisces. This is the standard error of "astrology" as propagated by major "experts and authorities", as well as handy web sites with their online calculation modules, neatly spreading misconception all over the planet, even in places where shamans still observe the horozon. The psychological implications? A swindle on both sides? One feels one's been cheated by the "new age money making machine", can not trust anyone, the least NASA and the well-meaning astronomer (if there's such a category next door, it must be rare). The shock at seeing her real stars ascending was too much for the lady as she's been manipulated all of her life (women in general are sound astrologers and ready for the change). She's been manipulated as girl, woman, mother; sexually, religiousely; emotionally and mentaly. If astrology and "new age" was to be her shield against the patriarcho-totalitarian matrix, she was wrong! She subdued to this point and lived to regret it. The reason to oppose reintegration today is not really a matter of "faith". The reason is money. Web sites collecting the grapes of pizzacut astrology can not possibly allow for scientifical truth. Astronomers should influence the astrological community but are in themselves disinteressed and not always very well informed at all. How many astronomers today know what the zodiac is? Are they all aware of the four last year's centaurs? Do we all know how many trojan moons our own planet has? The IAU compatible zodiac has 28 zodiacal constellations. This will come as a shock even to astronomers. Note that the experiment was made during two summer months using primitive tools like outdated DOS machine and a little DOS program (SKYGLOBE.EXE). Later on, one may discover astronomers were researching the IAU zodiac even before astronomical programs were available to help the research. But as afore said, not many astronomers are aware of the IAU zodiac. At this time we're not even sure IAU itself as a body is aware of it. This note goes to institutions like NASA JPL, Harvard MPC, IAU org in hope it'll help dispelling astronomical scorn towards astrology since there is surely a spark of good will towards reintegration on both sides, although we might well wait year 2600 for the event. Klaudio Zic (a.k.a. Claudio Antonio Valentin Solis) http://neodruid.tk Thousands of articles were written about IAU compatible astrology. Find them using http://groups.google.com "iau+astrology" search. reprogramatrix@gawab.com ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 SMS +393343182775 Voice mail +38591701528964 Your newspost welcome: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5