Ožganost planetov

[klarus]

kazimi je samo s soncem...se pravi, planet mora biti čisto blizu oz na soncu

 

Cazimi (also spelled Casimi, and sometimes called Zaminium) is a technical Arabic word meaning "heart of the Sun" or "in the heart of the Sun." It is an astrological/astronomical term meaning a planet that is in exact conjunction with or very near the precise center of the solar disc. A planet that forms a conjunction with the Sun within 17' (arc minutes) of partile (exactitude) is said to be Cazimi, literally engulfed and fortified by Sol and, as it also may be interpreted, "in the heart of the Sun." According to a psychological approach to astrology the Sun, representing the Ego, engulfs the energies of the planet in Cazimi and is said to imbue it with the intensely positive and life-giving energy and power of the Sun.

 

In traditional astrology, any planet is combust the sun when it is within 10 degrees of the sun either approaching or departing. Being combust the sun, or "under the sun's beams" as William Lilly called it, weakens a planet's strength. As astrologer John Frawley has explained, the sun is extremely powerful and "outshines" anything close to it. Consider the sun like a great king. In the court of the great king, any person who enters the court, no matter how great his reputation or how incomparable her beauty, must be humble before the king. Thus, their greatness is diminished. But cazimi, being right in the heart of the sun, is like being allowed into the very throne room or private chambers of a great king. This is the fortunate position of being highly favored by the sun, like a king who brings only a select few into his private chambers and bestows wealth and privilege upon them and listens to their deepest concerns with a mindset to help them.

 

British astrologer Deborah Houlding calls Cazimi "a state of solar-empowered brilliance, where the two planets are fused to act as one."

 

Even though Cazimi has traditionally been thought to strengthen the planet's influence as much as being combust the Sun weakens a planet, some modern astrologers disagree with the traditional method of calculating planetary strength and weakness in a chart. Their view of cazimi, as in all conjunctions, is that the positive or negative outcome of the influence will vary according to the nature of the planet(s) involved. So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.

[Marsa]

Upam, da sem prav zasledila - ožganost do 5° pa to...

nekje vmes si uspela zasledit tud to, ja.

 

sej tko je pogosto, zal.....

ne bi clowk verjel, kwa tkole vids, k se lohk fajn izkorisca v svoj prid, da astrologija ni eksaktna znanost.

 

pa nima en astrolog nobene konjunkcije, nobenga planetka v okultnih...... pol pa mal 'raztegne' orbis, mal vrh hise zamuti pa se sklicuje na ne vem kaj in koga, pa ma pol tud konjunkcije in okultne sposobnosti itd., "boljse" ascendente in lune celo in taksno...

da noute mislil da tega ni in da kar nekaj govorim, tega je zal velik, prevec (=kakor komu bolj ustreza, po sebi in svojem sinu, necakinji in 2 prjatlcah sklepajoc)!

bomo mel pa zato 320 000 poklicnih astrologov schnell kurs variante... in par krogov se bo obrnil, dok reces kex, pa bo konjunkcija do 15 stopinj in podobno (zgal se bodo pa do 9 - k je to ful *in* :D )

...

 

5 stopinj oddaljen planet ali tocka predstavlja konjunkcijo.

[loonanai]

Rekla sem na asc, ker mam v zadnjem času (kot sem omenila) veliko novih znank in znancev, ki imajo Neptun na asc ... in sami sebe opisujejo kot cmerave.

 

Jaah, nisem ravno cmerava - je pa res, kar je rekla lunca - veliko obrazov. Ampak ne v smislu jokerja, ko ima dva obraza - enega dobrega enega slabega, ampak mislim, da so to obrazi v smislu, da prikrijemo svojo bolečino. Kaj pa vem.

 

 

Sem pa malo brskala po netu za tale Cazim Jupitra - nisem nič dobila. Razen, da je redek eklips. Zdaj me še toliko bolj zanima

 

 

5 stopinj oddaljen planet ali tocka predstavlja konjunkcijo.

 

 

 

pa nima en astrolog nobene konjunkcije, nobenga planetka v okultnih......

 

Vem, da se najbrž ponavlja, ampak - kateri planeti so najbolj okultni? In kateri njihovi aspekti?

(prosim, ne biti jezne, če sprašujem najbolj osnovne stvari )

[Marsa]

okultne hise sem mislila s tem (nc nima v okultnih... hisah se pa kao ve )

 

sicer pa, ja, lohk pac *okultnost* pripisemo uranu, neptunu in plutonu, tud luni.

 

okultne hise pa so vodne hise: 4., 8. in 12.

[lunca]

kazimi je samo s soncem...se pravi, planet mora biti čisto blizu oz na soncu

 

Cazimi (also spelled Casimi, and sometimes called Zaminium) is a technical Arabic word meaning "heart of the Sun" or "in the heart of the Sun." It is an astrological/astronomical term meaning a planet that is in exact conjunction with or very near the precise center of the solar disc. A planet that forms a conjunction with the Sun within 17' (arc minutes) of partile (exactitude) is said to be Cazimi, literally engulfed and fortified by Sol and, as it also may be interpreted, "in the heart of the Sun." According to a psychological approach to astrology the Sun, representing the Ego, engulfs the energies of the planet in Cazimi and is said to imbue it with the intensely positive and life-giving energy and power of the Sun.

 

In traditional astrology, any planet is combust the sun when it is within 10 degrees of the sun either approaching or departing. Being combust the sun, or "under the sun's beams" as William Lilly called it, weakens a planet's strength. As astrologer John Frawley has explained, the sun is extremely powerful and "outshines" anything close to it. Consider the sun like a great king. In the court of the great king, any person who enters the court, no matter how great his reputation or how incomparable her beauty, must be humble before the king. Thus, their greatness is diminished. But cazimi, being right in the heart of the sun, is like being allowed into the very throne room or private chambers of a great king. This is the fortunate position of being highly favored by the sun, like a king who brings only a select few into his private chambers and bestows wealth and privilege upon them and listens to their deepest concerns with a mindset to help them.

 

British astrologer Deborah Houlding calls Cazimi "a state of solar-empowered brilliance, where the two planets are fused to act as one."

 

Even though Cazimi has traditionally been thought to strengthen the planet's influence as much as being combust the Sun weakens a planet, some modern astrologers disagree with the traditional method of calculating planetary strength and weakness in a chart. Their view of cazimi, as in all conjunctions, is that the positive or negative outcome of the influence will vary according to the nature of the planet(s) involved. So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.

 

Teoretično je res tko, kot si prekopirala post, vendar se v nekaterih primerih v konjukciji sonca in jupitra kaže ta konjukcija malo drugače. Jupiter zato ni poškodovan, ampak v prvi hiši daje res tisti pravi sonček, oseba je ful odprta, izžareva optimizem, to pomeni, da se sonce in jupiter precej podpirata, seveda pa je vse odvisno kako sta v natalu aspektirana. Če je konjukcija podvržena slabemu aspektu npr. s saturnom, potem je ta konjukcija precej blokirana. Enostavno ni smiselno gledat samo ene konjukcije.

[Marsa]

to pomeni, da se sonce in jupiter precej podpirata

seveda, delujeta z vzajemno mocjo, saj tud jupiter 'zhge'.

[loonanai]

seveda, delujeta z vzajemno mocjo, saj tud jupiter 'zhge'.

Potem predvidevam, da Jupiter deluje s svojimi pozitivnimi lastnostmi?

[Marsa]

Potem predvidevam, da Jupiter deluje s svojimi pozitivnimi lastnostmi?

ja. lahko (predvidevas).

prav tako pa lahko domnevas tud, da bosta drug drugega *przhila*..

in poleg *srecne* scene in tega ah in oh, jupiter srecni planet in to , je LAHKO* to total megalomanija, pozresnost, nagnjenje k debelosti, dionizijsko uzivastvo in podobno (telesno: tezave s srcem, jetri, histerija, scitnica itd.).

(*kajti nic ni izvzeto od ostalega, nicesar ne mroemo gledati cisto povsem loceno)...

skratka, nic ni samo *dobro* in nic samo **slabo**.

 

jemljemo pa ponavadi jupiter kot pozitiven planet, ja, ki, kljub temu, da je precej oddaljen in je ze 'na meji' z oddaljenimi (kot zevs, ki je 'most'), je zelo velik (najvecji) in ima tudi ali predvsem zato lahko sploh tok mocen vpliv.

seveda je ta vpliv mocnejsi ali sibkejsi glede na znamenje in hiso, v kateri(h) se pojavi.

 

ampak ce vzamemo samo naravo konjunkcije (najmocnejsi aspekt, poleg opozicije) in dve mocni nebesni telesi, je tako jasno in logicno, da *dela*, tudi ce se znajde v 'sibkejsih' znakih in hisah/mestih.

[klarus]

kaj sploh pomeni combust

[dbk]

kaj sploh pomeni combust

 

nekaj v smislu zgoreti...

 

com·bust (km-bst)

v. com·bust·ed, com·bust·ing, com·busts

v.intr.

1.

a. To catch fire; burst into flame: The fire started when a pile of oily rags spontaneously combusted.

b. To undergo combustion; burn: As the fuels were combusting they gave off noxious vapors.

2. To become suddenly angry or agitated: The defendant combusted when he heard the verdict.

v.tr.

1. To cause to burn; ignite.

2. To cause to become angry or violent: riots that are combusting whole provinces.

[loonanai]

in poleg *srecne* scene in tega ah in oh, jupiter srecni planet in to , je LAHKO* to total megalomanija, pozresnost, nagnjenje k debelosti, dionizijsko uzivastvo in podobno (telesno: tezave s srcem, jetri, histerija, scitnica itd.).

Nisem vedela, da je srečni planet...

 

No, tole so moje "lastnosti", če je vidno kaj iz tega vsega. Vi ste vsi mojstri na tem področju, meni se (še) nič ne sanja. Je kakšna posebnost v moji karti? Upam, da nisem preveč vsiljiva - samo zelo firbčna

 

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion

Sun Virgo 16°00'35 in house 9 direct

Moon Virgo 6°14'01 in house 8 direct

Mercury Virgo 27°22'25 in house 9 direct

Venus Leo 0°49'30 in house 8 direct

Mars Scorpio 6°45'46 in house 10 direct

Jupiter Virgo 19°42'01 in house 9 direct

Saturn Virgo 28°24'20 in house 9 direct

Uranus Scorpio 22°10'59 in house 11 direct

Neptune Sagittarius 19°55'07 in house 1 direct

Pluto Libra 20°18'45 in house 10 direct

True Node Leo 20°09'19 in house 8 retrograde

 

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Sagittarius 18°48'14

2nd House Capricorn 26°32'10

3rd House Pisces 9°59'58

Imum Coeli Aries 15°31'44

5th House Taurus 11°11'58

6th House Gemini 1°06'02

Descendant Gemini 18°48'14

8th House Cancer 26°32'10

9th House Virgo 9°59'58

Medium Coeli Libra 15°31'44

11th House Scorpio 11°11'58

12th House Sagittarius 1°06'02

 

Major aspectsSun Conjunction Jupiter 3°41

Sun Sextile Uranus 6°10

Sun Square Neptune 3°55

Sun Square Ascendant 2°48

Moon Sextile Mars 0°32

Mercury Sextile Venus 3°27

Mercury Conjunction Saturn 1°02

Mercury Sextile Uranus 5°11

Venus Square Mars 5°56

Venus Sextile Saturn 2°25

Jupiter Sextile Uranus 2°29

Jupiter Square Neptune 0°13

Jupiter Square Ascendant 0°54

Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°24

Neptune Conjunction Ascendant 1°07

Pluto Sextile Ascendant 1°31

Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

 

http://shrani.si/t/2A/1u/2g5q4xpc/astro2gw01anonymous36930.jpg

[loonanai]

Uf devička In to močna ...

 

Ja, ampak sem zadnjič slišala, da po 33 letu začne prevladovat ascendent. Kaj pa vem... Mislim, da mi kar tole bolj drži - Strelka po duši...

[dbk]

 

Ja, ampak sem zadnjič slišala, da po 33 letu začne prevladovat ascendent.

 

 

ce prav vidim datum na karti bo po napovedih itak prej konec sveta (2012, menda), preden ti v kristusova leta prides

[loonanai]

 

neeeeeeee, jest bi bila strelkaaa

[dbk]

http://www.archery-si.org/

[loonanai]

Hehe... Pravijo, da še nekaj let ne sprejemajo novih članov.

[klarus]

 

Ja, ampak sem zadnjič slišala, da po 33 letu začne prevladovat ascendent. Kaj pa vem... Mislim, da mi kar tole bolj drži - Strelka po duši...

ma sej si strelka asc v strelcu in 4. planetki v 9. hiši, ki je strelčeva hiša

čeprav je kar nekaj ribjega v tebi(sploh izgled) ker imaš na asc neptuna(tud js)

[loonanai]

ma sej si strelka asc v strelcu in 4. planetki v 9. hiši, ki je strelčeva hiša

čeprav je kar nekaj ribjega v tebi(sploh izgled) ker imaš na asc neptuna(tud js)

 

9H - strelčeva? Nisem ved'la. Lepo!

 

Kaj bi lahko bilo ribjega? Hmmm - čustva - zmeda v čustvih?? Usoda z ribami (mami, partner)?? Izgled?? Barva oči?. Kakšne so tvoje lastnosti - kot ascendent-neptun? Jaz sem nekje slišala, da imamo lahko identitetne krize, da se izgubljamo. Baje je bil Jezus Kristus tudi asc-nept.

[klarus]

ma bol to, da se znaš spremenit v sekundi..da te ne more skor noben pogruntat...za vsako situacijo nov obraz...

seveda ubijalske učke

ribja občutljivost..itd

[loonanai]

JA, vse to...

[Michelle]

in poleg *srecne* scene in tega ah in oh, jupiter srecni planet in to , je LAHKO* to total megalomanija, pozresnost, nagnjenje k debelosti, dionizijsko uzivastvo in podobno (telesno: tezave s srcem, jetri, histerija, scitnica itd.).

:xx!: :xx!:

[Pinka]

eno tako.. tipično http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile_tongue.gif

 

seks?http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile_tongue.gif

[Pinka]

..hehe, sco. so takoj zdravn , http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon1_biggrin.gif

http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile_tongue.gif in valjda, takoj za seks http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile_cool.gif

 

če si pa Marsa omenjala http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon27.gif

mogoče visok ego?http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon21.gif

[nataly]

 

Pa tut "naša" Nataly ima EKSAKTNO konjunkcijo sonca in neptuna v 1. hiši v strelcu.

 

v nulo natančno ja

 

če že hočete iz prve roke: tisto izpred par let - ko sem gruntala o telesnem vplivu neptuna itak drži. Če je sonce je telo, ne more biti čustvovanje, ali pa vsaj ne v takšni meri.

[Pinka]

 

**Pinka, na žalost kr daleč od velikega ega, najbrž, ker je v Kozorogu http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon21.gif

 

 

hm mogoče pa res...http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon21.gif

 

****

 

pri meni pa Sonček žge Urančka...pa sploh še nisem nikoli razmišljala kaj bi to pomenilohttp://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon1_question.gif

 

ok, nej bo... da ne dopizdim s tem pink-ponkanjem... http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile_big.gif

pač, gre se za tipe, se mi zdi, da me kar dost vleče na take ovnovsko-škorpijonovske note..http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon26.gif

haha, zdej sm se spomnla, smo mel na jobu ene zafrkancije in točno oven pa škorpjo sta bla v igri http://www.lunin.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile_tongue.gif

 

 

v katerem znamenju in keri hiši pa imaš to konjukcijo?