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Sai Baba ima Sonce v Libra (Tehtnica), rojen Novembra 23ga. Kjer imamo natalno Sonce? lahko v Ophiucus, zelo redko v Scorpius, zelo pogosto v Virgo.

Lahko določamo pozicijo z SKYGLOBE.EXE

Pri tem ne pomaga "siderealna", vedic ali kakšna druga astrologija.

Astromatrix predstavlja True Sidereal Astrology.

Več o tem kmalo v BLOG-u na [url=""][/url] [url=""][/url]

[url=""][/url] [url=""][/url] /index.reptilia.html (Ophiucus)
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Om Sai Ram

Sai Baba was born Nov 23 1926 with Sun in Libra.

Your Natal Sun and True Astrology

by Klaudio Zic [url=""][/url]

The incipient astrologer is sure to be anxious of the true position

of his own natal Sun. The Sun is much easier to determine than the

Moon. A small program like SKYGLOBE.EXE can help. Popular web

sites, pc programs and ephemeris usually can't help, especially

if your Sun is in Ophiucus, a rather large zodiacal constellation,

one of the 28, and also U.S.A.'s ascendant (both ecliptic and equatorial).

Sidereal, vedic or tropical calculus won't help much and here's why:

Sai Baba was born Nov 23 1926 with Sun in Libra. If this looks
surprising, order a chart for your astrologer. He'll love it!

Truth is the name of Sai Baba, a popular healer and miracle maker.

Truth helps you locate your planets, impregnates your life and

True Mind. This is rare since the majority run dry in early life.

The false mind produces false doctrines as designed by the devil.

The personal devil is a large manta-like invisible inorganic being.

Rare are those who faced the devil to overcome it. You can try.

The reason why popular web sites can't help you is miscalculation.

Miscalculation ranges from 1 degree for the Moon to 270 (sic!)

degrees for the solar return. Many are the reasons why astronomers

laugh at the sole mention of astrology, but not any more, since

the reformation [url=""][/url] [url=""][/url]

A nice exampe of an ophiucuan lunation, new moon in Ophiucus:

[url=""][/url] /index.reptilian.html

Your Sun could be in Scorpius, a rare event, since the Sun spends

from 6 days to a week only in this narrow ecliptic/zodiac intersection,

before heading towards Ophiucus, a large zodiacal constellation.

Your other planets can be in Cetus, especially if you are born this

year or plan childbirth around year 2012. In the year 2005 the Moon,

Mercury, Venus and Mars are in Cetus, along with the most appreciated

astrological centaur, as well as your astromagical initiator, Asbolus.

The site [url=""][/url] illustrates two examples of special birth,

Alice with Monoceros ascendant, Moon in Cetus, Mercury in Sextans, Venus

in Orion and Pluto in Serpens Cauda; and Hydra Kids with Venus in Hydra.

[url=""][/url] [url=""][/url] (Hydra ascendant)

Venus has been astrologically studied in Pegasus, Scutum, Sextans and

many other zodiacal constellations. Most delienations were published

on USENET and are available via [url=""][/url] search.

E.g. you'd type "Moon in Orion" for the WTC/Usama Moon delineation.


Klaudio Zic

Om Sai Ram
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Born Under Ophiuchus and Ignored by the Horoscopes:
A Modern Dilemma
John Mosley
Griffith Observatory
One tidbit of "astronomical" information that most people seem to know is their "sun sign." But few people know what it means. Fewer still know that it doesn't mean that at all, or at least that it hasn't for the past few thousand years.

If asked, most people would say that a "Gemini" is a person who was born when the sun was in front of the stars of the constellation Gemini the twins. That might have been true about 2,600 years ago, but it isn't today-for two reasons.

First, when the astrological sun sign system was set up more than two thousand years ago, the sun's path was divided into twelve equally spaced "signs," each 30 degrees wide, and these signs only approximately coincided with the constellations. Cancer, for example, is a small constellation, and Pisces is huge, but both are accorded onetwelfth of the sun's annual path. The constellation Cancer -- which is made of stars - never coincided exactly with the sign of Cancer -- which is a 30 degree wide zone along the sun's path. And each astronomer/astrologer had his own idea of where the constellation Cancer began and ended, and even of how many constellations there were.

Astronomers finally settled this nagging problem about 60 years ago when the international Astronomical Union said these are the official constellation boundaries, and published a set of specifications that reads like a surveyor's plot of irregular parcels of land. This, for example, is the true location of the constellation Cancer:

Trace along declination 7° 0' from right ascension 9h 15m to 7h 55m 30s
Then go north from declination 7° 0' to 10°.
Turn west and continue on 10° from right ascension 7h 55m 30s to 7h 48m 30s
Now head north again from 10° to 20° 0'
Then double back east from right ascension 7h 48m 30s to 7h 53m
Again go north from 20° 0' to 28° 0'.
Along declination 28° 0', go east from right ascension 7h 53m to 8h 0m
Again cut north to 33° O'.
Along declination 33° O', 90 east from right ascension 8h 0m to 9h1 5m
Then close the boundary by turning south and continuing south on right ascension 9h 15m from declination 33° O' to 7° O'.

This redrawing of the boundaries added a constellation to the zodiac. According to the official modern constellation boundaries that all astronomers use, the sun passes through 13 constellations, not 12. The "thirteenth constellation" of the zodiac is Ophiuchus the Serpent Bearer, and the sun is in front of its stars during the first half of December. About one person in twenty is an "Ophiuchus," but few of them know it.

Second, the dates that the sun spends in each constellation have shifted by a few weeks. Originally the sun was in front of the stars of Gemini during the first two weeks of May, for example. Now in 1988, the sun is in front of the stars of Taurus during the same two weeks. What happened?

The earth is wobbling as it spins. Because the moon and sun are constantly pulling on the earth's equatorial bulge, the earth wobbles like a top that is slowing down. This wobbling is called precession, and it's so slow that the earth takes 25,800 years to complete one wobble. The most familiar way to think of this motion is to visualize the earth's axis as sweeping out a huge circle in the sky that includes Polaris and a point near the star Vega (which will be the pole star in 12,000 years). Another way to think about it is to imagine that the position of the sun on the first day of spring (the vernal equinox) slowly drifts around the sky. Five thousand years ago the sun was in Taurus, near the Pleiades star cluster, on the first day of spring. By the time of Christ, the earth's wobbling had caused the sun to be on the boundary between Aries and Pisces on the same date. Six centuries from now the sun will be in Aquarius as spring begins (and the "Age of Aquarius," a longoverdue age of universal peace and brotherhood, will finally dawn).

Not only has the position of the sun on the first day of spring shifted over the past few thousand years; so has the position of the sun on every date. For example, the sun used to enter Cancer at the moment of the summer solstice (hence the term tropic of Cancer for the latitude where the sun is overhead on that date). This year [1988] the sun is in Gemini on the summer solstice. Next year is the last year that this is true. Beginning in 1990 the sun will be in Taurus at the summer solstice, two, constellations off of its "original" position.

When the earth's wobbling was discovered by the Greek astronomer Hipparchus in the second century B. C., astrologers had a problem. The sun was supposed to be in Aries as spring began, but it was really in front of the stars of Pisces. The astrologers took this bombshell in stride and declared that the signs drifted with the sun and that the sun was still in the sign of Aries, even though it was in front of the stars of Pisces. Hipparchus, by the way, is the northeastfacing astronomer on the Astronomers Monument on the Observatory's lawn.

So the constellations have stayed in the same direction, but the signs have drifted to the west (relative to the fixed stars), and they no longer coincide. If you were born during the first two weeks of May 2600 years ago, you were born when the sun was in both the sign and constellation of Taurus. Now during those weeks the sun is in Aries. Astrologically speaking, you are still a Taurus; astronomically speaking you are an Aries. Likewise, most Libras are really Virgos, and so on. (And to add insult to injury, most Sagittarians are really Ophiuchi.) Of the 366 possible birthdates, the sign astrologers use corresponds to the astronomical constellation 14 percent of the time. The astrological sign is off by one constellation for 84 percent and by two constellations for the other 2 percent.

So much for the effect that the stars have on our lives. The astrological effect that "Aries" is supposed to exert follows the drifting sun, not the stars. If astrology works, its mysterious forces come from arbitrary directions in space that have nothing to do with the stars that lie in those directions.

The table below lists the dates when the sun is in the real astronomical constellations of the zodiac. The dates fluctuate by a day from year to year.

Now, will an Ophiuchus please stand up!

Astronomical Constellations of the Zodiac

Constellation Dates

Capricornus January 19 to February 15
Aquarius February 16 to March 11
Pisces March 12 to April 18
Aries April 19 to May 13
Taurus May 14 to June 19
Gemini June 20 to July 20
Cancer July 21 to August 9
Leo August 10 to September 15
Virgo September 16 to October 30
Libra October 31 to November 22
Scorpius November 23 to November 29
Ophiuchus November 30 to December 17
Sagittarius December 18 to January 18

Reprinted from the Griffith Observer, July 1988. Copyright the Griffith Observatory. Unauthorized reproduction or distribution is prohibited.

Another article on this topic that might be of interest to the reader is "The Real, Real Constellations of the Zodiac."

For general information on the constellations, please visit the short List of Constellations or The Constellations and Their Stars.

return to Griffith Observatory home page.
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Scientific Zodiac and Precessed Ascendant – Your True Horoscope by Klaudio Zic

Copyright © 2006 by Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. [url=""][/url]

A the present epoch there are 16 constellations rising in the east, one of which is your own true natal ascendant.

Pisces Cetus Taurus Eridanus Orion

Monoceros Canis_Minor Hydra Sextans Leo

Serpens Caput Serpens Cauda Copyright © 2006 by Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.

Which eastern ascendant is yours?

MONOCEROS Initiative, leadership, daring, inspiration, charm.

HYDRA Occult, channeling, clairvoyance, and unraveling mysteries.

CETUS Laughing true mind, testing Pinocchio or neophyte.

SEXTANS Vatican, gain and loss, purposeful, rich, portentous. Volatile.

SERPENS Resourceful, united, headquarters, introspection, Californian.

OPHIUCHUS Mother Eve, kundalini, tantra yoga, I am that I am.

AQUILA Sails embracing a family, flying high and strong.

ERIDANUS The true guru is the root of safe flight. A false guru makes you fall.

ORION Transcendental experience, dreamtime, afterlife.

Astronomic Zodiac Copyright © 2006 by Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. [url=""][/url]

Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemini Hydra Leo Leo Minor Libra Ophiuchus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo

The astronomic zodiac enlisted as enlisted above consists of 28 IAU constellations. When we say one’s natal Sun is in Ophiuchus we are using this zodiac. Important events such as 9-11 bear their special mark. In the case of the WTC the Moon was in Orion. Usama bin Liden has been born with Moon in Orion. Orion is thus a zodiacal station, much as Ophiuchus. The zodiac enlisted can be also called Plutonian Zodiac. The basic or Neptunian zodiac has only 24 constellations. The discovery of a new planet such as Pluto can bring in new constellations such as Bootes. Pluto was in Coma Berenices during the seventies and in Bootes in the early eighties. Pluto is currently in Serpens constellation.

The astronomic ascendant for the U.S.A. is Serpens, while its ecliptic ascendant is Ophiuchus. The current set of eastern ascending constellations is 16 in number. Note that the set of ascending constellations tends to change due to precession. An ascending constellation is not necessarily zodiacal, thus heraldic Monoceros or Unicorn is not a zodiacal constellation, but it does rise in the east at this epoch.

In our example Alice is born on Aug 5th 2004 with Hydra ascending. The ascendant or eastern star is marked with an "E". E stands for East. The Moon is in Cetus, Mercury in Sextans, Venus in Orion, Juno in Scutum and of course Pluto in Serpens. This special child is intelligent and reserved. She will be hardly interested in superficialities and will dedicate her life to hermitage and spiritual purpose. Anyone forcing her into social frame is making a gross error. Already Juno in Scutum warrants chastity, much as in the case of Venus in Scutum. An expert scan of your natal skies leaves no place for superstition.
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[quote name='ananta' post='633745' date='8. Feb 2006 ob 14:58']Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemini Hydra Leo Leo Minor Libra Ophiuchus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo[/quote]
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